January 10, 2009

Ingo Swann Remote Views a UFO


Ingo SwannIn the interview quoted in this article, Bruce Maccabee is quoted as follows:

“These guys who didn’t believe in UFOs, but did believe strongly in metal bending, psychokinesis, remote viewing and all that mind research, were suddenly confronted with the UFO problem right in their face. [snip] ….When I talked with Kit Green in 1979, he was aware of all this, too, but he wouldn’t tell me anything.  He would only suck up information from me regarding the UFO aspect.  But there was this intersection point where psychics started zeroing in on UFOs and the people in the paranormal side were saying, ‘This can’t be. UFO’s aren’t real.’  So they had to start investigating what was going on in the UFO community.”

This quote begs the question, what was Bruce referring to about UFOs?  Later in the interview he mentions how Ingo Swann remote viewed a UFO behind a submarine.

In Ingo’s Own Words

On his website, www.biomindsuperpowers.com, Ingo Swann discussed that incident, which allegedly occurred between 1975 and 1976 when he was asked to remote view Soviet submarines.  Apparently this was an important test related to continued funding of SRI.

“This was one of those ‘big test’ things that went on with witnesses,” he wrote. “The room was filled with top brass.  I said, ‘Hal, I don’t know what to do.  I think this submarine has shot down by a UFO or the UFO fired on her.  What shall I do?’

And Puthoff went pale.  He looked at me and whispered, ‘I don’t know, it’s your show.  You do what you should do.’  So I sketched a picture of a UFO, and this two or three-star general sitting on my right grabbed it and said, ‘What’s that, Mr. Swann?’ I said ‘Sir, I think it’s rather obvious what that is.’

And he took the paper and stood up, and when he stood up, everyone else left.  So Puthoff and I went back to the hotel and I said, ‘Oh, Christ, we’ve blown the program.’

So we went out and got drunk.

Three days later, Puthoff got a call.

The caller said, ‘Okay, how much money do you want.’”

The Ingo Swann UFO Viewing From Another Source

While this account, from Ingo, is certainly intriguing – other accounts differ, and offer much less significance to the drawn UFO.  According to Lyn Buchanan, the session went more like this:

“One time, at one meeting, while Ingo Swan was tracking a submarine he just happened to mention that there was a UFO overhead.  Everyone around the table laughed, and Swan was told:

‘OK, well, track it for us to tell us what is doing’, and then they send the word out about it with request to have the radar readings.  They never got feedback on that.

The real purpose for that meeting was to see if they were going to get funded for another year.  Immediately after their request got out they got funded.”

As you can see here – the importance or significance of the UFO comments were mostly in the minds of the two guys who were trying to obtain funding (Puthoff and Swann).  There was no direct correlation between the continued funding and the fact that Ingo mentioned a UFO – however these two men drew that correlations based on very loose and circumstantial events.   What we can extract from all versions of the event was not that the U.S. Government attached importance or significance to the erroneous UFO drawing – but that the men running the Remote Viewing program certainly did.

By 1979, a key year where tasking and funding for Remote Viewing research was transitioned to the DIA and widened in scope – Kit Green also met with Maccabee in 1979, as discussed on the main RU website (RU article link), regarding the New Zealand sightings.  It’s clear that Kit and Hal likely were aware at this point of an odd correlation between remote viewing and UFOs.  Coincidentally, the following year, events in the world of UFOlogy, a field that had largely forgotten about Roswell, suddenly took an unexpected and wild turn.



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5 Comments

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    I recall that journalist Howard Blum wrote about this incident in his out of print book “Out There.”

    Comment by Gary Bekkum — January 12, 2009 @ 5:24 pm

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    That’s correct, Gary. Blum reported that Swann “observed” a UFO over a submarine.

    Comment by Mike Jamieson — January 15, 2009 @ 1:21 am

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    That’s right, there are several reports of the incident with different degrees of detail. The heart of the issue though is whether that detail (the UFO) is really what influenced the funding decision. Ingo and Hal apparently seemed to think so.

    Comment by RyanDube — January 17, 2009 @ 3:47 pm

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