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	<title>Comments on: The Open Minds Forum and Gordon Novel CIA Documents</title>
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		<title>By: Martin Brilliant</title>
		<link>http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2010/01/the-open-minds-forum-and-gordon-novel-cia-documents/comment-page-1/#comment-6824</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Brilliant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bunch of bs</description>
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		<title>By: Stephen Broadbent</title>
		<link>http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2010/01/the-open-minds-forum-and-gordon-novel-cia-documents/comment-page-1/#comment-6817</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Broadbent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the updates Ryan, as always they are well written and to the point. I&#039;ve been meaning to weigh in myself this week but work commitments have prevented me from doing so thus far. I intend to put that right soon, promise!

Once again, great work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the updates Ryan, as always they are well written and to the point. I&#8217;ve been meaning to weigh in myself this week but work commitments have prevented me from doing so thus far. I intend to put that right soon, promise!</p>
<p>Once again, great work.</p>
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		<title>By: RyanDube</title>
		<link>http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2010/01/the-open-minds-forum-and-gordon-novel-cia-documents/comment-page-1/#comment-6814</link>
		<dc:creator>RyanDube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment JR. First - to get this out of the way quickly, Gary is misinforming you. The documents were first published on the Internet by the Mary Ferrell Foundation long before Gary ever wrote anything about them. Additionally, Gary&#039;s article has nothing to do with the current context of Jack/Gordon&#039;s exchange and the current status of RAM - his article was in the context of the Project Camelot interview.

We were the first to correlate the current fall-apart of RAM with other ongoing events (involving Murad) and we were also the first to publish excerpts from the documents that proved that Gordon&#039;s claims about OFFICIAL affiliation with CIA are false - on the other hand, Gary&#039;s earlier article tried to make the claim that the articles supported Gordon&#039;s claims, which is frankly the exact opposite of the truth. Gary didn&#039;t even note a single excerpt. (which Jack picked up on immediately) that proved Gordon has been trying to run these cons for years. 

So, while I&#039;m sure Gary would like to claim credit for being the first to publish them online - he can&#039;t, the Mary Ferrell Foundation did. He also can&#039;t claim to be the first to publish anything regarding the fall-apart of RAM within the context of these current events - because he didn&#039;t. In fact, he was waiting to see what everyone else wrote before he bothered weighing in - he wrote as much in his most recent updates.

Finally, regarding your statement that &quot;However, there is no OM Self Promotion going on here Ryan.&quot; - all I have to say is to provide an email quote from George Knapp - sent to me yesterday (Jan 18th).

From Knapp to Ryan Dube:

&quot;Yes, your guess is correct. I was lobbied, in effect, about Open Minds, several times over the past week.&quot;

And this:

&quot;...and Gary B. did pitch me about his link as well, so it was fresh on my mind.&quot;

I don&#039;t blame George - he didn&#039;t have time to perform due diligence himself, and the self-promoters jumped on him. My fault for not considering doing so myself.  However, this article wasn&#039;t meant as a personal attack against you - I appreciate your kind words and have nothing against you. (btw, I&#039;m still banned from viewing OM). 

This article was simply my follow-up to capture any traffic from web travelers who have never heard of these things and who are looking for the information after listening to the show. I listened carefully to how Knapp identified the information on the air, and I decided to use some of the techniques I&#039;ve learned over the years to route that search engine traffic in our direction.  ;)

Thanks again JR - and thanks for citing my article as a source, I do appreciate that. I wish I&#039;d known, but again, I can&#039;t view your forum because I&#039;m currently banned.

Best Regards,
-Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment JR. First &#8211; to get this out of the way quickly, Gary is misinforming you. The documents were first published on the Internet by the Mary Ferrell Foundation long before Gary ever wrote anything about them. Additionally, Gary&#8217;s article has nothing to do with the current context of Jack/Gordon&#8217;s exchange and the current status of RAM &#8211; his article was in the context of the Project Camelot interview.</p>
<p>We were the first to correlate the current fall-apart of RAM with other ongoing events (involving Murad) and we were also the first to publish excerpts from the documents that proved that Gordon&#8217;s claims about OFFICIAL affiliation with CIA are false &#8211; on the other hand, Gary&#8217;s earlier article tried to make the claim that the articles supported Gordon&#8217;s claims, which is frankly the exact opposite of the truth. Gary didn&#8217;t even note a single excerpt. (which Jack picked up on immediately) that proved Gordon has been trying to run these cons for years. </p>
<p>So, while I&#8217;m sure Gary would like to claim credit for being the first to publish them online &#8211; he can&#8217;t, the Mary Ferrell Foundation did. He also can&#8217;t claim to be the first to publish anything regarding the fall-apart of RAM within the context of these current events &#8211; because he didn&#8217;t. In fact, he was waiting to see what everyone else wrote before he bothered weighing in &#8211; he wrote as much in his most recent updates.</p>
<p>Finally, regarding your statement that &#8220;However, there is no OM Self Promotion going on here Ryan.&#8221; &#8211; all I have to say is to provide an email quote from George Knapp &#8211; sent to me yesterday (Jan 18th).</p>
<p>From Knapp to Ryan Dube:</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, your guess is correct. I was lobbied, in effect, about Open Minds, several times over the past week.&#8221;</p>
<p>And this:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;and Gary B. did pitch me about his link as well, so it was fresh on my mind.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t blame George &#8211; he didn&#8217;t have time to perform due diligence himself, and the self-promoters jumped on him. My fault for not considering doing so myself.  However, this article wasn&#8217;t meant as a personal attack against you &#8211; I appreciate your kind words and have nothing against you. (btw, I&#8217;m still banned from viewing OM). </p>
<p>This article was simply my follow-up to capture any traffic from web travelers who have never heard of these things and who are looking for the information after listening to the show. I listened carefully to how Knapp identified the information on the air, and I decided to use some of the techniques I&#8217;ve learned over the years to route that search engine traffic in our direction.  <img src='http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks again JR &#8211; and thanks for citing my article as a source, I do appreciate that. I wish I&#8217;d known, but again, I can&#8217;t view your forum because I&#8217;m currently banned.</p>
<p>Best Regards,<br />
-Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Reason</title>
		<link>http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2010/01/the-open-minds-forum-and-gordon-novel-cia-documents/comment-page-1/#comment-6813</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record Ryan,

There has been no self promotion of OMF to George Knapp.

I started this thread on my own, having no communications with any of the current Admin Team about it. I started it to inform the membership and readership. OM promotion wasn&#039;t even a thought. In fact none of the admin team have corresponded to me at all about this thread. Nor have any of them posted any comment on this thread. This has been simply a Jake Reason investment of personal time for humanitarian reasons.

You&#039;ll note in my prologue posts, I linked your article on the first page of this thread. Due respect.

As you know (being a co-recipient), Jack Sarfatti has cc&#039;d me from the get-go. I felt this situation was an extremely important development, and as I privately told Jack, putting things out in the open is the best protection from a bad lunch. He subsequently passed my message on to about 30 others. You were one of them.

Jack has chosen to inform others, via email of this thread. I have plugged Coast-to-Coast a couple dozen times on OM in the past week.

However, there is no OM Self Promotion going on here Ryan.

And btw, Gary Bekkum informs me, he published CIA records on Gordon Novel in Feb 2008. Predating your article.


In closing Ryan, I have recently begun to enjoy reading your articles. You have a good pen and a captivating flare. This latest however, kinda threw me for a loop.

Cheers
Jake Reason


PS: Serpo is water under the bridge Ryan. Its Bygones </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record Ryan,</p>
<p>There has been no self promotion of OMF to George Knapp.</p>
<p>I started this thread on my own, having no communications with any of the current Admin Team about it. I started it to inform the membership and readership. OM promotion wasn&#8217;t even a thought. In fact none of the admin team have corresponded to me at all about this thread. Nor have any of them posted any comment on this thread. This has been simply a Jake Reason investment of personal time for humanitarian reasons.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll note in my prologue posts, I linked your article on the first page of this thread. Due respect.</p>
<p>As you know (being a co-recipient), Jack Sarfatti has cc&#8217;d me from the get-go. I felt this situation was an extremely important development, and as I privately told Jack, putting things out in the open is the best protection from a bad lunch. He subsequently passed my message on to about 30 others. You were one of them.</p>
<p>Jack has chosen to inform others, via email of this thread. I have plugged Coast-to-Coast a couple dozen times on OM in the past week.</p>
<p>However, there is no OM Self Promotion going on here Ryan.</p>
<p>And btw, Gary Bekkum informs me, he published CIA records on Gordon Novel in Feb 2008. Predating your article.</p>
<p>In closing Ryan, I have recently begun to enjoy reading your articles. You have a good pen and a captivating flare. This latest however, kinda threw me for a loop.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Jake Reason</p>
<p>PS: Serpo is water under the bridge Ryan. Its Bygones</p>
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		<title>By: Puppetburglar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puppetburglar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When funding and security overlap, someone is spreading Big Fear.  What is being Waived behind this?  Not yet goodbye?</description>
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