June 23, 2010

RU’s Ryan Dube and Andy Murray on Dark Matters Radio Tonight

Don Ecker, host of Dark Matters Radio and former Director of Research for UFO Magazine, will tonight interview Reality Uncovered co-owner Ryan Dube and RU member and researcher Andy Murray.

Ryan Dube

Ryan Dube

Both Ryan and Andy have been integral to the ongoing investigation into Richard Theilmann and the infamous Source A affair.

Don has shown a keen interest in this story and has already discussed the story with Stephen Broadbent on May 26th this year. A lot has happened since that interview and tonight’s show promises to be a blockbuster in every sense of the word.

Ryan Dube is an automation engineer in the Aerospace industry, and became interested in the world of Ufology while investigating a 2005 Internet hoax. In the process, Ryan established contacts throughout both Ufology and the Intelligence community. In 2006, Ryan and his friend and colleague Stephen Broadbent founded this site, Reality Uncovered. Ryan now also writes  professionally for a living and lives in Maine with his wife and two kids.

Andy Murray

Andy Murray has always had an interest in the UFO phenomena. He became involved with the California drone stories but later became convinced the drones were a hoax.

Joining the Open Minds forum he first became aware of the claims of brothers Clay and Shawn Pickering’s story about the person known as “Source A” and became one of the people investigating the story. Asking probing questions, it soon became apparent that many folks at the OM forum did not appreciate that and Andy was “banned for life” from the site.

Without Andy and fellow research team member John (JeddyHi), none of this information would ever have seen the light of day. It is thanks to their tenacity and dogged determination that we were finally able to seperate the truth from the fiction of the Source A story. Be sure to tune in to tonight’s show for further developments in this sordid tale!

Tune in at CyberStationUSA at 10:00pm Pacific, or check it out at the Dark Matter archives.

Filed under: Exopolitics — Tags: , , — Stephen Broadbent @ 11:33 pm


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    That interview sucked. It failed for the same reasons as the last two failed. The ‘affair’ was not coherently described nor was there brought out any reason to consider it a somehow significant event relative to the field of Ufology. Don Ecker laughed at that credulity exhibited by the OMers in believing such a patently ridiculous dime store adventure to begin with. Unfortunately, Murnut was among that little cabal of true believers that allowed this stupidity to gain traction among the CMer cult in the first place. At least he admitted this to be the case although quickly sweeping it under the rug. Anyone unfamiliar with the story tuning in to that broadcast would have found himself utterly lost in a mayhem of disconnected details. The night was at least salvaged to an extent by Don’s brief lecture on the reality of the UFO phenomena, NICAP, Don Keyhoe et alia- a reality that has neither been studied nor properly considered by either Dube or Murray. Neither one has immersed himself in the literature and thus both are de jure debunkers of the first order. Sorry if my views don’t comport with the amen choir, but c’est la vie.

    Comment by Toon — June 24, 2010 @ 2:12 pm

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    Hi guys, I enjoyed the interview very much. @Toon: give it a rest please. One of the reasons that UFOlogy is more or less static is that too many people are hung up on past cases.

    Comment by cripmeister — June 24, 2010 @ 3:07 pm

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    Excellent audio from last night show….Don has great insight and knowledge to find and use this clip


    Comment by Andy Murray — June 24, 2010 @ 5:11 pm

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    The audio clip that I used, I took from the documentary video “Quality of the Messenger” produced by my now deceased buddy Russ Estes. At the time Russ was working on a multi-part documentary on the UFO phenomena. Both Dr. Bill Cone and myself were interviewed on this show and I pulled the opening with Russ and Bill Cone segment because it seemed that it would fit in perfectly with what we were speaking about. Just for all your information.

    Don Ecker

    Comment by Don Ecker — June 24, 2010 @ 5:51 pm

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    Thanks for the great interview Don – I enjoyed the chat a great deal and we were really getting to the meat of some interesting topics toward the end…wish we could have continued for another hour!

    Comment by RyanDube — June 25, 2010 @ 2:54 am

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    I’ve finally had a chance to listen to the interview (at work, sshh!) and I was impressed.
    Great work guys and I agree with Ryan, I could have listened for much longer :)

    Comment by Stephen Broadbent — June 25, 2010 @ 4:11 pm

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    I agree with Mr. Broadbent.

    Ryan presented himself as very articulate and reasoned, and Andy you clearly are the motivated force behind this investigation. I have personally found that Don Ecker’s historical perspective complements the recent Internet based efforts (let’s all be honest, compared to Don we are all newbies!), and the interplay of Don with Andy and Ryan was most enjoyable.

    Good job, gentlemen.

    Comment by Gary Bekkum — June 25, 2010 @ 5:08 pm

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