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		<title>By: oboe</title>
		<link>http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2010/07/why-do-people-join-cults/comment-page-2/#comment-7900</link>
		<dc:creator>oboe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 01:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the Open Minds Forum administrators/owners:

What is your excuse for continuing to allow membership to someone who has repeatedly violated the ToS AND posted a libelous statement about a deceased Marine’s widow then sent the widow the link for that post in an email in an attempt to entice her to join the forum to defend herself?

What is your excuse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the Open Minds Forum administrators/owners:</p>
<p>What is your excuse for continuing to allow membership to someone who has repeatedly violated the ToS AND posted a libelous statement about a deceased Marine’s widow then sent the widow the link for that post in an email in an attempt to entice her to join the forum to defend herself?</p>
<p>What is your excuse?</p>
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		<title>By: Bitter Sweet Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2010/07/why-do-people-join-cults/comment-page-2/#comment-7898</link>
		<dc:creator>Bitter Sweet Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bitter Sweet Truth...&lt;/strong&gt;

Should I liook for the sweet truth of this any where else?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Bitter Sweet Truth&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Should I liook for the sweet truth of this any where else?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2010/07/why-do-people-join-cults/comment-page-2/#comment-7877</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 00:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’d like to know the answer to Oboe’s question as well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d like to know the answer to Oboe’s question as well</p>
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		<title>By: Caryn</title>
		<link>http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2010/07/why-do-people-join-cults/comment-page-2/#comment-7876</link>
		<dc:creator>Caryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: UN / ScA-RT - Discussion &amp; Follow Up V
« Reply #236 Today at 9:36pm »  

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Admin: “Caryn, you don&#039;t seem to understand sub judice or the conditional legal states between investigation, arrest, charge or prosecution.”

I understand it well you arrogant twit! - my point was missed. Jedd clearly stated it later.

Admin: “We notice you have deleted your own account here.”

Absolutely. You have nothing to offer....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: UN / ScA-RT &#8211; Discussion &amp; Follow Up V<br />
« Reply #236 Today at 9:36pm »  </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Admin: “Caryn, you don&#8217;t seem to understand sub judice or the conditional legal states between investigation, arrest, charge or prosecution.”</p>
<p>I understand it well you arrogant twit! &#8211; my point was missed. Jedd clearly stated it later.</p>
<p>Admin: “We notice you have deleted your own account here.”</p>
<p>Absolutely. You have nothing to offer&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Caryn</title>
		<link>http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2010/07/why-do-people-join-cults/comment-page-2/#comment-7875</link>
		<dc:creator>Caryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: UN / ScA-RT - Discussion &amp; Follow Up V
« Reply #230 Today at 9:22pm »  

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&quot;I see Caryn has chickened out.

I don&#039;t think she realized what she was getting into.&quot;

No, Jake - I&#039;m embarrassed that I was on the membership list on OM! I have now corrected that....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: UN / ScA-RT &#8211; Discussion &amp; Follow Up V<br />
« Reply #230 Today at 9:22pm »  </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
&#8220;I see Caryn has chickened out.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think she realized what she was getting into.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, Jake &#8211; I&#8217;m embarrassed that I was on the membership list on OM! I have now corrected that&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: RyanDube</title>
		<link>http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2010/07/why-do-people-join-cults/comment-page-2/#comment-7874</link>
		<dc:creator>RyanDube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to know the answer to Oboe&#039;s question as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to know the answer to Oboe&#8217;s question as well.</p>
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		<title>By: toon</title>
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		<dc:creator>toon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Originally Posted by hp
&quot;My post was meant to point out censoring. I don&#039;t care much about a stupid hoax and who becomes famous for outing it. Will someone be sad or take any ownership if this RT man is found dead with a suicide note. (Other than claiming the gov did it to continue the hoax).&quot;

And replied BE2
&quot;Well if the Sauce blows out his brains surely the Merd has no responsibility. What has he done except expose a sick guy to ridicule and turn him in to the government for a little waterboarding? C&#039;mon.&quot;

Now if, on the other hand, Barbara Sauce buys the farm- that one&#039;s on Eddie the K and the Merdnut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Originally Posted by hp<br />
&#8220;My post was meant to point out censoring. I don&#8217;t care much about a stupid hoax and who becomes famous for outing it. Will someone be sad or take any ownership if this RT man is found dead with a suicide note. (Other than claiming the gov did it to continue the hoax).&#8221;</p>
<p>And replied BE2<br />
&#8220;Well if the Sauce blows out his brains surely the Merd has no responsibility. What has he done except expose a sick guy to ridicule and turn him in to the government for a little waterboarding? C&#8217;mon.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now if, on the other hand, Barbara Sauce buys the farm- that one&#8217;s on Eddie the K and the Merdnut.</p>
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		<title>By: oboe</title>
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		<dc:creator>oboe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 10:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the OMF administrators:

What is your excuse for continuing to allow membership to someone who has repeatedly violated the ToS AND posted a libelous statement about a deceased Marine&#039;s widow then sent the widow the link for that post in an email in an attempt to entice her to join the forum to defend herself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the OMF administrators:</p>
<p>What is your excuse for continuing to allow membership to someone who has repeatedly violated the ToS AND posted a libelous statement about a deceased Marine&#8217;s widow then sent the widow the link for that post in an email in an attempt to entice her to join the forum to defend herself?</p>
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		<title>By: RyanDube</title>
		<link>http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2010/07/why-do-people-join-cults/comment-page-2/#comment-7870</link>
		<dc:creator>RyanDube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 02:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary - if I hold a conversation with someone about a very sensitive topic, and I happen to accidentally CC you on the conversation with an email address that you have every legal right to access and read - and so you read them - does that constitute &quot;interception&quot; in your mind? If so you have a strange sense of the word. If there were specific intended recipients, then he shouldn&#039;t have cc&#039;d a generic email address like &quot;info@serpo.org&quot; on those email exchanges.

Thanks for the legal paragraph - and you&#039;ll noticed that none of the published team of five emails had such a paragraph attached. Although lots of them started using it after the Serpo hoax got busted. :)

Again - no &quot;interception&quot; took place. As far as &quot;elicitation&quot; - that goes many ways. People could claim the same about you every time you email Ron, for example. Many of these activities (even by me - I am not naive) can trigger interest by the FBI and flag a person as a potential spy. 

With that said, since we know that we aren&#039;t spies - let the FBI poke, prod and practice due diligence....when you aren&#039;t doing anything wrong, there&#039;s nothing to worry about. It&#039;s the guys who are knowingly involved in the illegal activities (fraud, stolen valor, etc...) who need to worry.

-Ry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary &#8211; if I hold a conversation with someone about a very sensitive topic, and I happen to accidentally CC you on the conversation with an email address that you have every legal right to access and read &#8211; and so you read them &#8211; does that constitute &#8220;interception&#8221; in your mind? If so you have a strange sense of the word. If there were specific intended recipients, then he shouldn&#8217;t have cc&#8217;d a generic email address like &#8220;info@serpo.org&#8221; on those email exchanges.</p>
<p>Thanks for the legal paragraph &#8211; and you&#8217;ll noticed that none of the published team of five emails had such a paragraph attached. Although lots of them started using it after the Serpo hoax got busted. <img src='http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Again &#8211; no &#8220;interception&#8221; took place. As far as &#8220;elicitation&#8221; &#8211; that goes many ways. People could claim the same about you every time you email Ron, for example. Many of these activities (even by me &#8211; I am not naive) can trigger interest by the FBI and flag a person as a potential spy. </p>
<p>With that said, since we know that we aren&#8217;t spies &#8211; let the FBI poke, prod and practice due diligence&#8230;.when you aren&#8217;t doing anything wrong, there&#8217;s nothing to worry about. It&#8217;s the guys who are knowingly involved in the illegal activities (fraud, stolen valor, etc&#8230;) who need to worry.</p>
<p>-Ry</p>
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		<title>By: Gary ******</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary ******</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ryan,

The issue is not the content of Kit&#039;s emails nor the accounts used to send them, but the willful interception by someone who is not the intended recipient.

Furthermore, the information does not need to be government-related, since elicitation is often used to obtain personal information with the intention of providing an advantage against the injured party.

Many organizations include a legal paragraph in the message to make this clear, in the event of a lawsuit (I&#039;ve been using this one for years):

This email transmission and any files
that accompany it may contain sensitive
(and /or confidential) information belonging
to the sender.  It was not intended for
transmission to, or receipt by, any
unauthorized persons.

If you are not the intended recipient
you are hereby notified that any
disclosure, copying, distribution or
the taking of any action in reliance
on the content of this information
is strictly prohibited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ryan,</p>
<p>The issue is not the content of Kit&#8217;s emails nor the accounts used to send them, but the willful interception by someone who is not the intended recipient.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the information does not need to be government-related, since elicitation is often used to obtain personal information with the intention of providing an advantage against the injured party.</p>
<p>Many organizations include a legal paragraph in the message to make this clear, in the event of a lawsuit (I&#8217;ve been using this one for years):</p>
<p>This email transmission and any files<br />
that accompany it may contain sensitive<br />
(and /or confidential) information belonging<br />
to the sender.  It was not intended for<br />
transmission to, or receipt by, any<br />
unauthorized persons.</p>
<p>If you are not the intended recipient<br />
you are hereby notified that any<br />
disclosure, copying, distribution or<br />
the taking of any action in reliance<br />
on the content of this information<br />
is strictly prohibited.</p>
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