February 27, 2011

“Mr. Non-Lethal” Discloses Aviary’s Most Closely Guarded Secret?


Followers of this blog and RU’s investigations in general may recall that last year around this time, Ryan posted a fascinating interview with John Alexander entitled Mr. Non-Lethal With Many Hands in Many Pots and noted with some frustration that…

John was evasive and ignored a number of the questions – in a few cases the most important ones.

I, as well as a number of others I suspect, agreed that Ryan had just cause to be highly skeptical of John’s answers (or more precisely, the lack thereof) and in fact I had some much harsher words of my own for him as noted in the forum thread linked to in that article for those who may be interested. I was particularly critical of his support of the Roswell Myth.

That Was Then, This is Now

Since then John’s anticipated new book UFOs: Myths, Conspiracies, and Realities has now been published and Popular Mechanics has published a brief interview with him that highlights John’s “disclosure” of the fabled “working group”…

Col. John Alexander Plants UFO Doubts in New Book: Exclusive Interview

Q: Why was the Advanced Theoretical Physics Group organized, and what did it accomplish?

A: We thought there was probably a black program on UFOs somewhere in government, and those involved would probably be willing to work with a group that had appropriate clearances and could help disseminate information. What we found out, of course, was that there was no program and that information collection was pretty much ad hoc.

I’ve now read the book and while I believe it falls far short of full disclosure of the Aviary’s true motivations and the extent of their actions, and perhaps could be criticized as an attempt to restore some credibility to some of the individuals involved in what is affectionately referred to here at RU as Scammers Inc, I will say this…

Buy this book!

I am encouraged by the all too rare move to intellectual honesty that Mr. Alexander expresses through his authoritative rejection of a number of popular UFOlogical “sacred cows” including Roswell, MJ-12 and Area 51 and I think this may turn out to be an important book… or not. At the very least it makes for some good entertainment and presents a formidable challenge for those who wish to continue to profit from the “reality” of a vast UFO conspiracy. If anybody could have got their foot in the door if one existed, I can’t say that I know of anybody with a more appropriate background more determined to do so. The introduction from Burt Rutan and commentary by Tom Clancy is worth the price of admission alone.

That said, John, we need to talk.

UFOs: Myths, Conspiracies and “Realities”?

Buy at Amazon

Buy at Amazon

From the prologue…

UFOs are real! With no prevarication or qualification of terms, there are physical objects of unknown origin that do transit our universe. The evidence that supports those statements is simply overwhelming. That evidence includes both hard data collected via multispectral sensors and from high-quality eyewitnesses that are neither misreporting facts nor delusional.

And…

Any so-called skeptic that states, “There is no hard evidence to support the existence of UFOs,” is simply wrong! What he or she really means is that they haven’t taken the time to seriously review the data, and most likely you can infer that they aren’t about to start now.

It should be noted only one sentence of the 1976 Tehran case (a teletype sent by the DAO in Tehran as a matter of routine foreign intelligence) that was given as an example of material the ATP had “exclusive” access to was initially classified and that was at the CONFIDENTIAL level because it involved sources and methods and if cases like Bentwaters (Rendlescam Forest), Cash-Landrum, the Coyne Incident (Mansfield, Ohio), the Phoenix Lights, Gulf Breeze (Bruce Maccabee), and Malmstrom (Robert Hastings and Salas) he discusses in the chapter “REAL CASES AND HARD DATA” is the best evidence John has, I’m afraid I see nothing new here in the way of “data” to review.

No one has to convince this skeptic UFOs are real! I already know sometimes people (myself included) see things in the sky they can’t identify but where’s the evidence that establishes UFOs “transit our universe”? To his credit, John acknowledges there’s no physical (“multispectral sensor”) evidence of objects of unknown origin entering and exiting our atmosphere from outer space but then he handwaves it away with the following rationalization…

At a minimum it appears that these enigmatic objects have a capability to manipulate physical reality in manners that we have yet to comprehend. That does not make them less real, just more difficult to explain.

Well John that kind of does, if they can be picked up by our sensors (e.g. eyes) but not any others, seems to me it’s either not really an object of unknown origin or it’s not really there. But, I digress…

I do like this book. It’s definitely a step in the right direction and John should be congratulated for it.

 

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12 Comments

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    Another possibility- IC disinfo. See my review at Amazon. A man cannot serve two masters…

    Comment by Kim Walker — February 27, 2011 @ 4:53 pm

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    Awesome article Tom. Last year, when I first heard about this impending book release, I contacted John to see if he’d be willing to discuss the details. He wasn’t really willing to talk about anything pre-publication and directed me to the publishers for setting up an interview, but he did at least make the following statement. This was back in August, 2010.

    “Ryan

    As indicated, the book will be out sometime in February. All publishing aspects are being handled by St. Martin’s Press. I suspect there will be many unhappy folks as I have taken on several sacred cows. The difference is that I generally include how to verify the information. The web site llists some, but far from all of the topics.”

    I found his statement “…as I have taken on several sacred cows” to be pretty interesting. I haven’t yet read the book but hope to do so this week. Looking forward to seeing which sacred cows he challenged. :-)

    Comment by RyanDube — February 27, 2011 @ 6:42 pm

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    My copy is on the way, and I look forward to reading The Penguin Brief. I suspect the forum will be alive with the sound of bees. More in a moment.

    Comment by Puppetburglar — February 27, 2011 @ 9:18 pm

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    The book is on Amazon already – they emailed me a couple of days ago.
    “There is no hard evidence to support the existence of UFOs,” is simply wrong! What he or she really means is that they haven’t taken the time to seriously review the data, and most likely you can infer that they aren’t about to start now”

    Then it’s about time someone presented that ‘hard evidence’ because to date that has been sorely lacking – and no, it isn’t through sheer lack of looking!

    If it’s there then show us – simples!

    Comment by Caryn — February 27, 2011 @ 9:22 pm

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    Buzz 😉

    Comment by Caryn — February 27, 2011 @ 9:23 pm

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    I liked your review a lot, but I can’t tell you how sick I am of hearing people exclaim, “Any so-called skeptic that states, ‘There is no hard evidence to support the existence of UFOs,’ is simply wrong!” or Jim Marrs’ “The controversy over the existence of UFOs is over. UFOs are real.” If that’s the starting off point, than the author’s doing it for the money, and his conclusions can’t be trusted — just my opinion, of course. Nothing’s been proven when the evidence has been distorted or lied about for years by people with an agenda. Frankly, these guys should have to earn trust, before expecting it. And anybody who says, “the evidence is in, there is no controversy, and the skeptics are clearly wrong” needs to stand in line with Hastings, Salas, and everybody else earning a paycheck on the UFO tour circuit and explain exactly why that paycheck is justified. And the evidence shouldn’t be the type that gets you an honorary mention on “Hoarders”, because a thousand pages of evidence means nothing if it doesn’t answer your questions, and simply saying, “that proves nothing” actually does prove nothing. Usually, I’m inclined to pick up something like that on discount at a thrift shop; I did that with Timothy Good, and I was completely satisfied that his take home pay on that deal was $0.00 — completely satisfied. And when it comes to discussing the “Myths, Conspiracies, and Realities” of anything at all, the worth lies in who the author’s sources are, who’s research he’s credited with apparent value, and who’s advice he took, none of which does anything for me. However, I do trust you, Tom, and you’re a fair arbiter of worth, so I’ll go ahead and read it. And it better be REAL good, too! I’m still a little peeved that I no longer have the time to read Stephen King or William Faulkner. Heck, I’ve been on page 40 of Erik Larson’s “The Devil in the White City” for about two-and-a-half years now, and that’s not a great place to be either. Thanks, Tom — great review.

    James

    Comment by James Carlson — February 28, 2011 @ 4:13 am

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    More money through the tills. ‘Kaching’ !! Yet no new info, why doesnt that surprise me?. Why do people continually go out and buy books that they KNOW has no new info, explanations or evidence?, is it some sort of mental masochism??
    In this case what do we have, someone relying on the credibility of a military past, who likes to state things and causes a minor kerfuffle, then sees an opportunity to cash in and publish a book seemingly denying some of the things he said earlier.

    What surprises me, is how many people are gullible enough to go out and buy stuff like this. One could surmise that, though so many people like to boldly say they are sceptical, why do they rush out and buy rubbish like this? is it simply in in the desperate hope they were wrong all along and the book is going to tell them UFO’s are real?. Makes you think doesnt it?
    There doesnt have to be one born every minute, theres loads still out there.

    Comment by Chorlton — February 28, 2011 @ 8:22 am

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    > is it some sort of mental masochism??
    Yes it is. :)

    > And it better be REAL good, too!
    James, you are not going to like this book at all.

    Comment by Nab Lator — February 28, 2011 @ 9:51 am

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    Boy, am I glad that I don’t use to read any kind of UFO-literature. 😛

    Comment by philliman — February 28, 2011 @ 1:40 pm

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    There are many fascinating insights in this book, insights that help confirm what we already know about certain events and individuals. A lot of the information available in this book is very useful in helping to populate our timeline of events with regard to the activities of Scammers Inc.

    Three guesses as to the identity of the “Source” discussed in the Los Alamos and UFOs section of the book: (Emphasis added)

    “Rumors abound regarding underground chambers at Los Alamos that are used to
    house ET, or store UFO material. In fact, some subterranean facilities do exist
    there. Many of them are used for storage of nuclear materials—which by their very
    nature are subject to extremely high security measures. I had two incidents related
    to claims that these sites were used for ET material. One came as a result of
    contacts with Bill Moore who is known in UFO circles for exposure of the
    Majestic 12 documents. These documents will be covered in more detail in
    Chapter 7. The issue here is specific to underground facilities at LANL. Moore set
    up a meeting in Gallup, New Mexico. Attending were physicist Hal Puthoff,
    Congressional aide Scott Jones, and myself. We were to meet with a source who
    claimed to have been involved in an official UFO project when he was in the U.S.
    Air Force.
    While the identities of Puthoff and Jones were known to Moore, I was
    an unknown. He guessed, incorrectly, that I was an officer from the Defense
    Intelligence Agency (DIA). In reality I had retired from active duty and was
    already working at Los Alamos. As I told Moore at the time, I was not with DIA
    nor had I ever been assigned there.

    The “source” gave each of us a rather convoluted story about ET and his
    involvement in the project. He went into substantial detail about his induction into
    the program that had taken place at an underground facility at Los Alamos. The
    numbers of people he suggested were involved in the program were hard to
    believe. It would have been nearly impossible to keep a secret of that magnitude
    under wraps for half a century. More important, he described a facility that I knew
    pretty well. Having recently been in the building he specified, I knew that there
    were no underground bunkers in that facility.
    This source also did not know that
    recently this technical area had been opened for public access. As a cost-cutting
    measure at the end of the Cold War, many technical areas that had previously been
    guarded were opened to the public. The fences he described remained in place, but
    nobody manned the gate. Any civilian visitor could have approached and entered
    that building. That hardly described a facility that holds the nation’s crown jewels.

    If you really need three guesses then you haven’t been paying attention!

    @Kim If you really think Leslie Kean’s research needs marginalizing by outside sources then I don’t know what to say. Maybe the emoticon with the big eyes and the shocked look on its face would convey it better… 😉

    Comment by Stephen Broadbent — February 28, 2011 @ 10:20 pm

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    It seems to me that we have been at this a very long time to once again buy another tome relating to the threadbare testimony that UFOs are real.
    So what? Don Keyhoe, one rank down from Col. was stating the very same thing back in the 1950s with probably as much credibility.

    So where are we? Nowhere.

    When some high up military or political dude reveals on genuine government documents, that they are here and they intend to kill us all or maybe reward us with many beads because we are worth it, then it might get interesting.
    To anyone who didn’t just get into a UFO club or site and has been at it for some time, this is just another yawner.

    Comment by Etherian — March 3, 2011 @ 1:49 am

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