Congratulations on wiki becoming a standard now to redirect the latest victims of this E.T. nuke disinfo. Actually James now that I think of it — Michael Ruppert was on coasttocoastam recently and guess what? Ruppert said his dad was high level CIA and his dad told Ruppert that some of the radar readings are “not ours.” Michael Ruppert then said that his new close neighbor is….drum roll… Robert Hastings. Ruppert then went on to say he thought the E.T.s were preventing humans from destroying the planet and Ruppert deferred to New Age luminaries like Dolores Cannon, David Icke, Greg Bradden, etc. Well I wanted to contact Ruppert asap to inform him about the delusions of his new neighbor who apparently has made a point to press his views onto Ruppert, a man with a definite large audience, via Ruppert’s 9/11 and CIA drug dealing exposes. Anyway Ruppert only gave his snail mail address for contact – the show should be on youtube now…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2rexujaMGI Yeah here it is — he starts in the 2nd hour I think.

So now we can just refer Michael Ruppert to the wiki entry.

I still believe that the Echo entry should have been the article left to stand since there is/was ample evidence followed by supporting documentation that something did indeed occur in that flight…a noise pulse generated from the launch control center that went out through the HICS cable to all of the flight’s launch facilities. I won’t delve into the non-UFO theory that you and I have well developed over the past couple of years since we have documented our thoughts on my blog, RU forum and other on-line venues.

What people should take into consideration for both alleged UFO incidents is that there have been no new developments that have advanced Hastings’ and Salas’ claims…the emergence of actual eye witnesses. I do wonder that within the next ten years or so, someone will be rummaging through items in a dusty attic in Great Falls and come across either a letter, diary, or photo attributed to the events back in March of 1967…possible, but as of now highly unlikely.

I realize my response to your question is somewhat general. If you want a little more specificity, please ask. I have no problem answering any questions whatsoever regarding the claims I’ve made and the conclusions I’ve reached, and if I don’t have an answer for you or don’t have enough information to reach a validated conclusion, I’ll tell you outright instead of stringing you along with platitudes and portent. Credibility represents a character issue that I take very seriously, because it’s a reflection of personal honor and integrity that tends to define a man, not merely describe him. For that reason, I don’t avoid questions, and I don’t bullshit my way through them. If you have any further questions or concerns, I will confront them with the complete candor and openness they deserve. I don’t ignore issues like so many of those individuals I’ve discussed above, and I will always defend my point-of-view and the conclusions I’ve reached openly. I think if you conduct a little research of your own, you will discover almost immediately that those men I am most contemptuous of — those at the forefront of the whole UFO and nuclear facilities schtick — tend toward the other extreme. Their habitual silence regarding all manner of criticisms is deafening, and a man who refuses to confront his antagonists or defend his assertions when they have been so readily countered with such attention to detail that their own ignorance has been spotlighted in conjunction with their worthless fictions is merely a man who lacks the knowledge to do so. And when you don’t have enough understanding of the issues you’ve raised to even attempt some form of defense when that “understanding” has been so extensively shattered and diminished, then you don’t even have a case to make — all you’ve got are silly little whispers in the dark that deserve our contempt.

The bottom line is very simple — kind of like those promoting it: they are lying to you. They are a bunch of frauds without any real ability to maintain the interest of others in their chosen field unless they fictionalize it substantially. They also understand very well the high cost of failure. Even those authors and theorists who are honest men merely trying to throw a little light on the issues recognize their ultimate reliance on the fictions of others. For example, Raymond Fowler, an author of numerous books who has tried to promote some form of intelligent discussion of the matter, was pulled into the Echo Flight story very early on by both Robert Salas and James Klotz, who wrote a number of letters and emails to him prior to publishing their own claims in 1996. Now Fowler is an honest man, eminently so, a conclusion strongly supported by the clear fact that he was the man who arranged to have all of his materials and papers regarding Malmstrom AFB in 1967 (and afterward) sent to me. I have always asserted this point-of-view even when other “analysts” (we’ll call them that even though their results belay the point) insistently maintained that I was calling him and all other honest investigators liars and frauds. Even Fowler, however, an honest man confronted with both the insistent facts and in the face of massive evidence that Salas and Klotz had lied to him personally, and were trying to use his past research and assessments for their own benefit wrote to me with very clear attention to the details that he had no desire to enter into the controversy in any role whatsoever, and would not express even his opinions or judgments, but would merely “observe” the fray from an unbiased distance. That’s all well and good if you don’t care about the issues, but it strikes me as a bit disingenuous when your input and research is being used to express so obviously the fraudulent claims and conclusions of others.

The conclusions I’ve reached were not established in a vacuum, and I’m not the only one who has reached them. Even “Fortean Times” magazine, for many years the seemingly attendant profiler of such themes in mass media marketplace, has repeatedly come out with expressions of disdain for most of the UFO promotional events marketed on such a wide scale by folks like Hastings and Salas. Dr. David Clarke, for many years an accepted expert regarding the British military forces’ investigations of the UFO phenomenon for many years, has also discussed this case in the context of the “UFO and Nukes” connection asserted by author Robert Hastings. You can read his article on the subject at http://drdavidclarke.blogspot.com/2010/11/flat-earth-nukes.html. His articles are regularly profiled and/or published by the “Fortean Times”, and they raise many questions regarding the honesty of the very many frauds out there in the world today.

Unfortunately, other reporters like Leslie Kean and Billy Cox have taken advantage of the massive reliance on poor research and aggressively dishonest assessments in order to stake their own claims on the marketplace, while Frank Warren’s profit-driven, wholesale support via his “UFO Chronicles” website allows them to propagate this foolishness extensively. And God forbid, I don’t even want to mention the noise being sustained on nationwide radio discussions. I gave up listening to that crap almost immediately, even for research purposes. They will quite literally spotlight anything you want and treat it as factual as long as it stands outside the norm.

The point to make is apparent: they have no facts to establish their claims — NONE. And the facts are relatively easy to gather, so there’s no real excuse to ignore them so egregiously. The Echo Flight incident was automatically declassified in 1979, so anyone desiring the information had only to ask for it. Other investigators had looked at these supposed incidents and ignored them, because they were so clearly accounted for! This is why Robert Salas was forced to create a new incident entirely from nothing — this Oscar Flight garbage. People can research the matter for themselves, but a lot of people are simply lazy, and they would rather believe the fantasy. I’ve always thought that folks should simply ask the missileers themselves, but even that’s apparently too difficult. There are missileer websites all over the internet, and I have still not encountered a single veteran of that service who is unwilling to discuss their careers or the details of their accomplishments. They’re rightfully proud of what they’ve done with their lives for the benefit of their nation and the population of Americans they have served. You only have to read the notable works of Tim Hebert (see: http://timhebert.blogspot.com/), an ex-missileer in his own right, to recognize this quality almost instantly. Unfortunately, everybody trying to force the UFO issue regularly asserts that all of these men are either lying or refuse to tell the truth due to the highly classified nature of the secrets being guarded — a response that anybody who has any real knowledge of classified materials and their protection will instantly recognize as a voice of desperation intended to denounce the protests. There is no organized response to the many facts being argued against these UFO nuke claims, because they have nothing to argue. That’s why these UFO proponents continue to respond with personal attacks and reliance on arguments like “it’s all classified, that’s why there are so few courageous people willing to tell the truth.” I’ve actually had people try to convince me that my father was being an brave American citizen when he supposedly lied to his family for 40 years about the events at Echo Flight! It’s always one or the other: he’s lying to protect the secrets, and therefore isn’t courageous enough to tell the truth, or he’s lying to his family in order to maintain his military orders, showing how courageous he is maintain a lie even in the face of exposure. It’s all insulting rhetoric that anyone with access to the internet and the will to conduct a little research can easily determine for themselves.

I had no interest in any of this until around 2006-7 when Robert Hastings decided to abuse my family for daring to insist that the Echo Flight UFO claims were a myth, and my first response was to figure out what these people were actually trying to substantiate. I was stunned that anybody would believe them, but the facts were clear — a lot of people believed them, and wanted to “fix” the alleged problems involving the legacy of soul-crushing secrecy our nation supposedly thrives on! Well, it’s nonsense. You and a lot of other Americans are being lied to regularly by people who see those lies as the last resort to either profit from or to explain their own personal failures to establish any profound belief or acceptance in the UFO myths they are spreading. I would advocate to anyone that they limit their beliefs to what they can prove, but they respond that they have faith in UFOs. Well, go figure.

In any case, I’m more than willing to call out a liar when I can prove it. These people are liars, they are frauds, and it has been proven. UFOs have never switched off nukes, and there’s no good reason or evidence to believe that they have. On the other hand, there is a great deal of validated evidence to suggest that those making these claims are nowhere near as honest as some people want to believe they are. They are quite literally being paid to lie to you and everybody else, and this interest makes them somewhat averse to the real tools of their trade being so publically apprised.

I hope this feedback helps to provide some further assessment and reason for questioning what’s being claimed by these people, instead of the habitual response many have to merely accepting it.

James Carlson

The bottom line is very simple — kind of like those promoting it: they are lying to you. They are a bunch of frauds without any real ability to maintain the interest of others in their chosen field unless they fictionalize it substantially. They also understand very well the high cost of failure. Even those authors and theorists who are honest men merely trying to throw a little light on the issues recognize their ultimate reliance on the fictions of others. For example, Raymond Fowler, an author of numerous books who has tried to promote some form of intelligent discussion of the matter, was pulled into the Echo Flight story very early on by both Robert Salas and James Klotz, who wrote a number of letters and emails to him prior to publishing their own claims in 1996. Now Fowler is an honest man, eminently so, a conclusion strongly supported by the clear fact that he was the man who arranged to have all of his materials and papers regarding Malmstrom AFB in 1967 (and afterward) sent to me. I have always asserted this point-of-view even when other “analysts” (we’ll call them that even though their results belay the point) insistently maintained that I was calling him and all other honest investigators liars and frauds. Even Fowler, however, an honest man confronted with both the insistent facts and in the face of massive evidence that Salas and Klotz had lied to him personally, and were trying to use his past research and assessments for their own benefit wrote to me with very clear attention to the details that he had no desire to enter into the controversy in any role whatsoever, and would not express even his opinions or judgments, but would merely “observe” the fray from an unbiased distance. That’s all well and good if you don’t care about the issues, but it strikes me as a bit disingenuous when your input and research is being used to express so obviously the fraudulent claims and conclusions of others.

The conclusions I’ve reached were not established in a vacuum, and I’m not the only one who has reached them. Even “Fortean Times” magazine, for many years the seemingly attendant profiler of such themes in mass media marketplace, has repeatedly come out with expressions of disdain for most of the UFO promotional events marketed on such a wide scale by folks like Hastings and Salas. Dr. David Clarke, for many years an accepted expert regarding the British military forces’ investigations of the UFO phenomenon for many years, has also discussed this case in the context of the “UFO and Nukes” connection asserted by author Robert Hastings. You can read his article on the subject at http://drdavidclarke.blogspot.com/2010/11/flat-earth-nukes.html. His articles are regularly profiled and/or published by the “Fortean Times”, and they raise many questions regarding the honesty of the very many frauds out there in the world today.

Unfortunately, other reporters like Leslie Kean and Billy Cox have taken advantage of the massive reliance on poor research and aggressively dishonest assessments in order to stake their own claims on the marketplace, while Frank Warren’s profit-driven, wholesale support via his “UFO Chronicles” website allows them to propagate this foolishness extensively. And God forbid, I don’t even want to mention the noise being sustained on nationwide radio discussions. I gave up listening to that crap almost immediately, even for research purposes. They will quite literally spotlight anything you want and treat it as factual as long as it stands outside the norm.

The point to make is apparent: they have no facts to establish their claims — NONE. And the facts are relatively easy to gather, so there’s no real excuse to ignore them so egregiously. The Echo Flight incident was automatically declassified in 1979, so anyone desiring the information had only to ask for it. Other investigators had looked at these supposed incidents and ignored them, because they were so clearly accounted for! This is why Robert Salas was forced to create a new incident entirely from nothing — this Oscar Flight garbage. People can research the matter for themselves, but a lot of people are simply lazy, and they would rather believe the fantasy. I’ve always thought that folks should simply ask the missileers themselves, but even that’s apparently too difficult. There are missileer websites all over the internet, and I have still not encountered a single veteran of that service who is unwilling to discuss their careers or the details of their accomplishments. They’re rightfully proud of what they’ve done with their lives for the benefit of their nation and the population of Americans they have served. You only have to read the notable works of Tim Hebert (see: http://timhebert.blogspot.com/), an ex-missileer in his own right, to recognize this quality almost instantly. Unfortunately, everybody trying to force the UFO issue regularly asserts that all of these men are either lying or refuse to tell the truth due to the highly classified nature of the secrets being guarded — a response that anybody who has any real knowledge of classified materials and their protection will instantly recognize as a voice of desperation intended to denounce the protests. There is no organized response to the many facts being argued against these UFO nuke claims, because they have nothing to argue. That’s why these UFO proponents continue to respond with personal attacks and reliance on arguments like “it’s all classified, that’s why there are so few courageous people willing to tell the truth.” I’ve actually had people try to convince me that my father was being an brave American citizen when he supposedly lied to his family for 40 years about the events at Echo Flight! It’s always one or the other: he’s lying to protect the secrets, and therefore isn’t courageous enough to tell the truth, or he’s lying to his family in order to maintain his military orders, showing how courageous he is maintain a lie even in the face of exposure. It’s all insulting rhetoric that anyone with access to the internet and the will to conduct a little research can easily determine for themselves.

I had no interest in any of this until around 2006-7 when Robert Hastings decided to abuse my family for daring to insist that the Echo Flight UFO claims were a myth, and my first response was to figure out what these people were actually trying to substantiate. I was stunned that anybody would believe them, but the facts were clear — a lot of people believed them, and wanted to “fix” the alleged problems involving the legacy of soul-crushing secrecy our nation supposedly thrives on! Well, it’s nonsense. You and a lot of other Americans are being lied to regularly by people who see those lies as the last resort to either profit from or to explain their own personal failures to establish any profound belief or acceptance in the UFO myths they are spreading. I would advocate to anyone that they limit their beliefs to what they can prove, but they respond that they have faith in UFOs. Well, go figure.

In any case, I’m more than willing to call out a liar when I can prove it. These people are liars, they are frauds, and it has been proven. UFOs have never switched off nukes, and there’s no good reason or evidence to believe that they have. On the other hand, there is a great deal of validated evidence to suggest that those making these claims are nowhere near as honest as some people want to believe they are. They are quite literally being paid to lie to you and everybody else, and this interest makes them somewhat averse to the real tools of their trade being so publically apprised.

I hope this feedback helps to provide some further assessment and reason for questioning what’s being claimed by these people, instead of merely accepting it.

James Carlson