January 26, 2009

A Breakthrough: The Dale Graff Interview


Air Force Given the clear indications that something was going on at Wright Air Force Base during the late 1970s, possibly in parallel with either the FTD remote viewing work, the Project Blue Book activities, or both (or neither).  One thing that the timeline and the appearance of that common MJ-12 "philosophy" tells us is that all of those stories were created much earlier than when the public first received them through Ufologists Moore, Pratt and others. 

In his efforts to bolster the information found in Collin’s Exempt From Disclosure ,  Bruce Maccabee lets slip a tiny detail – he received details directly from Kellerstrass that only a year later was finally made public in the form of the "MJ-12" disclosures, and provided by allegedly "anonymous" sources. 

In order to determine the truth of Ernie Kellerstrass’ claims, and to better understand potential connections with the FTD remote viewing research, we decided to make contact with the elusive "Dale Graff" – that "guy in the office" who was supposedly telling Ernie stories about EBE, a book that detailed aliens visiting during the time of Christ, and more.

Dale Graff’s Current Status

Dale Graff Prior to my discussions with him, Dale Graff had just recently moved, so it took a few email exchanges to hammer out a good day and time for a conversation.  However, Dale responded positively to my initial inquiry for a phone interview to discuss his remote viewing work at FTD in the 1970’s and his recent work and books on consciousness .  I hoped to learn more about this mysterious man who is often quoted as a source by Collins and the "Aviary" crew, but remains a silent background character who has virtually little (if any) involvement in the UFO arena.

The Dale Graff Interview

Dale Graff is currently retired, but actively working with a research group on consciousness studies and "dreams."  I contacted Dale on Sept 9, 2007 via email, and a few days later I received a polite and cordial response from Dale that he would be more than happy to discuss topics for a possible interview with us.

Upon calling Dale, I was struck by his soft-spoken nature, his enormous insight and intelligence, and his open willingness to talk about the phenomenon of psychic ability and the ufo phenomenon.He is very knowledgable about the entire paranormal field, including both the psychic phenomenon and the UFO phenomenon.  Dale had the pleasure of working under Tony (Anthony) Cacciopo, so Dale enjoyed access to many of the Blue Book investigations, and for a short period sat in the room where the "red phone" was while waiting for his clearances to pass for the remote viewing research.

During this phonecall, we spoke for about an hour regarding the history of the Remote Viewing program, and his part in it.  We discussed his hypothesis regarding the source of the psychic phenomenon, the success rates that were realized during the remote viewing program, and the subsequent fall-out toward the end of the Remote Viewing program related to his reasons for retiring. Dale now conducts his own private research in the area of psychic phenomenon as related to dreams, and more recently short-term precognition studies, which we hope to report on here at RU in the near future, if Dale is willing.

 Toward the end of our conversation, I asked Dale about his time at Wright Patterson working at FTD on the AF Remote Viewing research projects.  I asked  him specifically about the claims that were made by Ernie Kellerstrass in his interview with Bruce Maccabee (and his claims made to Bob Collins as well).  The following transcript is from my scribbled short-hand notes that I kept during the phone interview. 

Unfortunately, after I let it slip to Bob Collins, Kit Green, and Hal Puthoff that I was in contact with Dale Graff, Dale informed me that "someone" had warned him off from talking with us.  After a few more emails, I stopped hearing from Dale Graff completely.  This was unfortunate, because I personally liked Dale a great deal.  He was one of the first authentic and truly "nice" people that I’ve ever met in the course of my own investigations. I will greatly miss the potentially fascinating and interesting discussions we could have continued having.

I’ve highlighted a few of the critical points that took place at the end of our phone conversation below.

Ryan:   Dale – there was a book written in 2005 by Bob Collins called Exempt from Disclosure…

Dale: Yes – I know Bob and he did work at FTD when I was there.  I left FTD in 1981 and I’m almost certain I met him there and met him off and on a few times.  We’ve exchanged some letters at one time (during the time before emails).  I’ve talked to him and know a little bit about him but don’t know this latest book.

Ryan: Well, some of the latest information that is in there has some claims that go back to one of his core sources – Ernie Kellerstrass…

Dale: Ahh yes – I know Ernie quite well.  I used to work for him!  He was at one time, for about a year, he was my division chief (branch chief) so I had a professional working relationship with Colonel Ernie Kellerstrass.  

Ernie and I had some very long discussions over the years, usually after duty because we didn’t want anyone to know we were talking about any of this stuff.

Ryan: In Maccabee’s background paper on Collins sources, he did an interview with Ernie in 1985, and Ernie claimed you had told him certain information that you had seen a saucer and bodies, that you had seen a secret “yellow book”….

Dale (almost choking):   I have no idea where all that came from?!  That is absolutely not true!

Ryan: Right…that’s why I wanted to get in touch with you to see if any of those claims were at all true?

Dale : NO WAY [laugh]…I’ve always been open minded and have always had a strong interest in ET life and any evidence whatsoever of ufo’s and crafts and the real story behind Roswell, Hanger 18 and all that (notes are ineligible here)….but if somebody said that I told anybody that I ever said I have seen an alien craft at Wright Patterson AFB, or anywhere at all , that’s an incorrect statement.  I’ve NEVER made that statement to anyone.  I’ve never even seen a UFO!

 

Ryan: Why do you think they would make up these kinds of stories…?

Dale: One of the reasons Bob Collins and I departed ways a little bit – he was saying things, even back in the 80’s, that sounded like he was pushing our conversations in a direction which we weren’t even at, or making statements and I don’t know where he got any of that from…

There was a lot of speculation going on, and I think this thing about yellow book…there were always different colored documents going around that signified different levels of clearance, some blue, pink, yellow – content was usually some operational project that was very sensitive, but nothing to do with some secret files of a crashed UFO or whatever he’s talking about.  I don’t know what he’s talking about, but it’s certainly nothing that I’ve ever said!

Ryan: So most of these talks with Ernie were just hypothesizing what the phenomenon could possibly be?

Dale: Yeah – just “gee wiz” kind of talk.

 

Ryan: Do you think there’s any reason Ernie would make up any of this about you?

[Removed some private comments about Ernie at Dale’s request]

Dale:   …I was always guarded with our discussions.  He (Ernie) was a very helpful individual and very supportive, but it wasn’t really well known in the organization that I was involved in the Remote Viewing research.  I happened to be assigned to his group for a certain time…it was classified so some of the stuff I couldn’t even share with him.

Because it was such a political hot potato – only a few people in the organization were allowed to be read into the project, and I think at one point I had a lot of meetings, about once a month, with the chief scientist (Dr. Cacciopo).  He came in mostly from the psychological side – he was very interested in the topic and just wanted personal updates, and there were times I’d be in his office late at night and we were just shooting the breeze discussing the phenomenon of remote viewing – the source of it – the kind of things we’re discussing here.  I don’t even remember having any discussions with Cacciopo about UFO’s!

Ryan: If anyone had ever said you and Cacciopo had gone to a number of high level classified meetings, would those meetings most likely have been related to the Remote Viewing research that you were involved with at the time?

Dale: Yes, absolutely.

Analysis and Summary

Based on some of the descriptions about Ernie, the odds aren’t looking too good for Kellerstrass. 

From Bob Collins:

"Ernie was a short pudgy type of person who always seemed to have a menacing, intimidating attitude typical of AF Colonels of the time, yet full of fear and paranoia when talking about UFOs, MJ-12 and aliens, always saying that someone else had told him those stories."

Hal Puthoff (in an email to me in 2007 after already learning about our interview):

"Met him only once, in the ’80’s, so memory is vague.  Friendly host  for our mtg.  Certainly convinced of the ET presence because of firsthand exposure to at least one event.  Bruce Maccabee’s "Hawk Tales" captures his  claims in detail.  Difficulty in assessing his viewpoints is that Dale  Graff, whose opinion I value after having known him as my contract monitor for ~  a decade, first at FTD, then DIA, claimed Ernie exaggerates.  Don’t know if  this is the truth, or if Dale is dissembling."

Dr. Kit Green:  

"HIGHLY VOLUBLE, PRESSURED SPEECH, POOR LISTENER"

Bob Collins tells a number of amazing tales in his book, Exempt From Disclosure, regarding Ernie’s valliant efforts throughout the MJ-12 affair and throughout the 1980’s to impress upon certain producers the "legitimacy" of sources and to create intrigue surrounding the story.

Who is the mysteriouis Ernie Kellerstrass? Why has he gotten away with hiding in the shadows behind Bob Collins and Rick Doty for so many years – never taking the fall when the story falls apart?  Does the story really start with Ernie?  Or is Ernie just another believer – whose mind became captured by the stories that he was "fed" back in the late 1970’s?  If so – where did the stories actually come from, and who really created them?

Believers would probably answer with the age old stereotypical cliche – the Air Force.  However, those who’ve been following along with this plot and with the characters, behaviors, and ultimately the profits enjoyed by many of those who’ve hid in the background all of these years – the answer seems far less complicated and much less esoteric than certain people would like you to think. The answer lies right in front of our faces, yet so many folks still cling to long-standing new-age UFO beliefs strengthened and cemented by these fabricated stories, and they refuse to see the men behind the curtain…even as the curtain slides cleanly to the side.

Please check back often – in future updates we’ll be reviewing some of the fascinating stories Dale Graff provided earlier in the interview, about Project Blue Book and the nature of psychic phenomenon.







January 21, 2009

George Knapp Interviews Gary Bekkum on C2C


Gary Bekkum

On January 20, 2009, George Knapp interviews Gary Bekkum on Coast to Coast AM.

George Knapp provided a summary to Jack Sarfatti’s list.  I will summarize the summary here:

The discussion centered around if and how the government monitors the UFO field, and what type of material is usually discussed on groups like Sarfatti’s list.

Gary speculated regarding the following topics:

  • The possibility that that U.S. monitoring is because they are convinced of the potential for infiltration there by foreign agents to access information
  • Mentioned Jack Sarfatti’s association (but not being a member of) Aviary folks
  • Said he believed in official, classified working groups on UFOs
  • Referred to the Aviary as publicly portrayed inaccurately as a "dark cabal, akin to MJ12."
  • Talked about high level, exclusive discussion groups like Jack’s list, made up of people with high-level clearances who discuss UFO-related ideas
  • Names discussed: Uri Geller, John Alexander, Bruce Maccabee, (said he wasn’t sure about Doty and Collins)
  • Mentioned Kit Green briefly
  • Talked about Dan Smith at length and why he hired Gus Russo to investigate
  • Discussed pieces of the Stargate FOIA documents

You can catch the radio show here .  I plan to do so and then provide a second review covering the issues, and discussing the accuracy/inaccuracy of the material discussed in the Interview.

In a brief overview of the topics and some of the things Gary discussed, it appears that he speculated a great deal as he is known to do.  However, given that this was a radio talk show where speculation is part of the discussion, that’s surely his right.   However, based on the synopsis, there is certainly one major issue that RU takes issue with.

"Intelligence agencies could be using the Internet as a social control experiment. He cited Project Serpo (about a human/ET exchange) as an example of a possible disinformation leak that was introduced in order to observe how the information spreads and changes."

While Gary Bekkum’s guess is eerily close to the mark, unfortunately he completely misses the target by blaming "Intelligence agencies" for Project Serpo.  U.S. Intelligence agencies, or the U.S. military, had nothing to do with Project Serpo or related MJ-12 documents.  However, ironically Gary’s speculation partially hits the mark – as we will continue to lay out here in upcoming updates.



Filed under: Aviary,Remote Viewing,Serpo — Tags: , , , , , — RyanDube @ 11:21 am




Bruce Maccabee Interviews Ernie “Hawk” Kellerstrass


2007 Mufon Symposium According to the publication, "An Estimate of the Situation: The Extraterrestrial Hypothesis," presented at the 2007 MUFON International UFO Symposium, allegedly an AF Colonel (possibly former) and Rick Doty contacted Moore initially in September of 1980.  Taking this date into consideration, it’s important to dig further back into the ongoing activities of these individuals prior to 1980, before they started interfacing more often with UFO researchers.  The important clues in tracing back the activities of Rick Doty and any other individuals involved in the MJ12 scam include following where same philosophy might have showed up prior to making its appearance in the materials passed to Pratt, Moore, Howe, and so many other researchers after 1979/1980.

2005 – Bruce Maccabee Releases Hawk Tales

Hawk Tales , a 2005 article written by Bruce Maccabee, was described by Bruce himself as a "supplement" to Robert Collins’ 2005 book Exempt from Disclosure .   This background document was largely forgotten during the aftermath of Exempt from Disclosure and much of the Serpo-related drama that followed.  However, this intriguing document written by Bruce Maccabee provides a great deal of hidden treasures.  In it, Maccabbee writes:

“This article presents a book’s worth of information that was left out of the book , information that provides a historical foundation for Collins’ investigation.”

You can often learn more about the items that are left out , than you do from the items found within.

Not only does Maccabee’s Hawk Tales provide a historical foundation – it also shares a great deal of information concerning Collins (and Doty’s) sources.  This article includes references to names and events that took place at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in 1979 and earlier.  Keeping in mind the identities of Moore’s sources of the bogus Aquarius and MJ-12 information (Rick Doty and other individuals who present themselves as "Air Force"), in Maccabbee’s writeup we learn a little more information about those sources, and what went on in the years just before Moore  and other UFO researchers were contacted and fed regurgitated UFO stories and information.

In the introduction, Maccabee writes:

“One of the main sources of information was a Lt. Col. Of the Air Force, herein referred to by his ‘aviary’ code name, ‘Hawk’ (as explained in the book, pg 8).  Hawk retired from the Foreign Technology division (FTD) at Wright Patterson Air Force Base (WPAFB) in 1979, about 4 years before Collins started working there.  Collins learned about Hawk’s interest in the UFO subject from a mutual acquaintance .  Subsequently, Hawk provided valuable information to Collins’ research activities in the latter half of the 1980’s."

Hawk, as most researchers who are familiar with the famed Aviary as defined by Moore now know, is Ernie Kellerstrass. In the article, Macabbee describes some of the information Kellerstrass shared with him in this interview held in 1985 and 1986.  As Maccabee points out in his introduction, this information Kellerstrauss was sharing with him in this interview was only 5 years after the publication of Moore and Berlitz’s book The Roswell Incident .  Even more significantly, it was also a year before the alleged “MJ-12” documents and information would be released to the general public .  Bruce Maccabee had little idea, at the time of these interviews, that a group of “insiders” were also talking to Moore, Pratt, Shandara, Howe, and others about the same exact ideas and during the same time period.  It appears that by 1985, those responsible for spreading those documents were finally out in full force and interfacing with a whole list of Ufologists in an effort to get the "core story" out into the UFO arena.

However, Macabbee’s document in particular, when placed within the context of other events that were taking place at the Foreign Technology Division at Wright AFB during this same exact time period mentioned in the document (1975 through 1979) – reveal striking parallels and lead amazingly close to a revelation regarding the source of this disinformation (MJ12), and possibly the motive.

The Maccabee – Kellerstrass Interview in 1985

The article continues on with a transcript of the conversation Maccabee had with Kellerstrass in 1985.  The conversation goes over a multitude of events and names of sources from many years before this 1985 interview, mostly from the 70’s – and those are the critical points that we want to focus on in order to try to identify where the “core story”, or MJ12 philosophy, first started making an appearance.

I will highlight the critical parts of the series of Maccabee/Kellerstrass conversation here:

Bruce Maccabee In the first part of the interview, Kellerstrass describes his only two eye-witness accounts of UFO’s.  One was witnessing some models of experimental aircraft at Wright AFB that matched stereotypical descriptions of UFO’s (cigar and saucer), as well as witnessing an event where a jet that had been scrambled to intercept a UFO over Japan got shot down.  Other than those two “eye-witness” events – he admits that everything else he "knows" about Aliens and UFO’s were told to him through 1st and/or 2nd hand accounts.

By the third conversation – Kellerstrauss provides the name of one of his central sources, who turns out to be none other than “this one fellow in 1978” – Dale Graff .  The comical part of this interview is that Kellerstrass assumes that Dale Graff didn’t know that Ernie’s "other source" was also in touch with him (Ernie).  He is completely oblivious to the possibility that Graff and the other source could actually not be “independent from the other” at all.  Ernie claims that the matching information from two sources proves it’s true…overlooking the possibility that matching information from two sources could indicate collaboration.

Interview Excerpts:

H – Ernie Kellerstrass, B – Bruce Maccabee

“December 19, 1985

H:    Everything I have relayed (regarding Bob) is from that one visit, what, 1963 or 4, sometime in there.
B:    Yeah, you said 1964.
H:    Yeah, when I was there in ’64. So all I do is relate that plus things that were confirmed by this one fellow (Dale Graff) in 1978 .  So my information is only until 1978 or early ’79, that time frame.  And what it was is that in ’78-79 the conversations were with somebody (Dale) completely independent from the other (Bob. H)…(DG) who did not know that I knew the other information (from Bob.H. ).”

A little further down in the conversation, Graff gets mentioned again, and this time Maccabee, hearing the name for the first time, asks for more specific information about him.

Interestingly, Kellerstrass attempts to brush off the name as “Just a fellow who was in the office.” However, it becomes quite apparent before long that Dale Graff is actually a central source of most of the more sensational parts of the story.  In particular, the parts that we now recognize today (in 2009) as making up much of the core of what exists in the MJ12 documents, and serves as a central philosophy of the documents – as well as the central philosophy for almost all related releases that would eventually come from Rick Doty and his group down the road – including Project Serpo in 2005.

“B:    Oh.  So he probably didn’t need any clearance to tour the FAA facility.
H:    Right,  He didn’t do the other part.  But he took the tour.  It was all planned back then.   Although Dale Graff told me in the spring of ’79 that everything was as I had said.  He told me (what he knew), and then later on I told him what I knew, and he said, “Yes, it’s still there.”
B:    Hmmmm.   And, uh, who is that?
H:    Just a fellow who was in the office.  He’s super, super, super sensitive, but he’s the guy….
B:    A guy who was in the office where you worked?
H:    Yeah, where I worked.  He’s the guy that… We were talking one day and he said “You should have read the book. Then you’d get some really interesting information.”
B:    Oh, yeah.  OK.
disclosure-alien H:    And then he told me about this book (a reference to the “Yellow Book”?).  He said there were about 40 copies but they were all controlled.  I asked if it was possible to see the book and he said “No, it was just sent back six months ago.”
B:    That was in ’79?
H:    That was early ’79.  So that means the book was sent back sometime in ’78, like either 3 or 6 months before.  So, does that match in with the other book?  (I think this is a reference to the Project Aquarius report.)
B:    We don’t really know the….
H:    …..the publication date?
B:    No, we don’t know that.
H:    Well, he (Graff?) told me the publication was either ’76 or ’77.
B:    Oh, yeah.  Right.  That would agree..
H:    It was what he told me at the time.  Anyway, thing that is interesting is that he told me the name of the people, the race, where they were from and a whole bunch of other little things.  And when RC was talking the other day about a report he had, and he didn’t tell me much about it because told him I didn’t want to know, uh, it turned out that ¾ of what he said was the same .  And the other guy (Dale Graff, referred to herein as DG) said he had read the book.  He said it was about a 100 page book.  In fact, he said it was over that.  He said it was about…let me get back my memory…he said it was a couple if inches thick, hard bound.  Now the thing that is interesting is that he said Dr. Cacciopo (referred to herein as Dr. C ) got the book.  It was sent to him.
B:    Who is that?
H:    He’s the Chief Scientist.  (Dr. Anthony Cacciopo, at that time Chief Scientist at FTD, herein called “C”.)”
B:    Uh, huh!   (Note:  Collins knew Dr. C but had not yet approached him on this subject.)
H:    And, when I talked about the committee meeting, or what have you, (i.e., the committee in charge of UFO/AFC research mentioned above as meeting in a lodge at the northern edge of Albuquerque near the tramway; MJ-12?),  he (DG) said he had accompanied him (Dr. C) out there to these meetings.
B:    This guy you are talking about DG had accompanied Dr. C….?
H:    Dr. C.  And he said Dr. C had attended these meetings.  So what that tells me is, I suspect that Dr. C is a member or a chief advisor to the committee.  Because that is the only way DG knew all of that information that matched with what I had known. "

The next segment of the conversation outlines more of the details which we’ve finally come to recognize.  But the important part of this statement is that the information was coming from Dale Graff in 1979 – around the same time Doty was starting to build up his own activity within Ufology (upcoming reports will detail that activity), as well as the year (1979) when Bruce Maccabee started interfacing with CIA (Kit Green), and it was also the year Bruce noticed that there was an "intersection" between the parapsychology research and Ufology.

The interview as published in Hawk Tales is quite long, but any researcher interested in the history of the MJ12 releases and the source of those documents should carefully read through this interview.  The discussions are too long to outline here, but the following important points were raised in the remainder of the interview.  According to Ernie Kellerstrass:

  • Dr. Dr. Anthony Cacciopo allegedly let Dale Graff read "the book" in 1978, and Dale told Ernie in 1979 what was in the book.
  • The Air Force had 5 (types of) aliens, and "some live ones," and were hiding one
  • Provided early history from 10,000 years ago up to the time of Christ
  • The planet they came from had a double sun
  • Dale Graff and Dr. Cacciopo went to Davis-Monthan AFB to a "major meeting on UFOs"
  • An "OSI fellow" took Dale and two other Army folks Southwest of the AFB to a vault where they "had ’em (aliens) in pictures and they had ’em in tanks"
  • The U.S. had bodies or parts of bodies of three of the five types of aliens
  • An "Arizona group" consisting of 3 males, 2 females (captured in Utah) were originally alive
  • Alien bodies had no nose, round mouth, no ears, no hair, elliptical eyes, and looked like stereotypical alien
  • They (aliens) were vegetarians (based on food found in a tray in the craft)
  • Everyone called the aliens EBE1, EBE2, etc…

Dale Graff

Allegedly Dale Graff described "the book" to Ernie as being about two inches thick, with just under 40 copies available, brown in color and "coded."  Ernie continues to describe his conversations with Dale Graff during the late 1970’s as follows:

"Every once in a while we’d talk at the end of the day and he used to like to talk about the whole paranormal field and all the exotics.  I won’t elaborate but we use to talk for hours on end;  Out of body experiences and all that sort of thing, and he knows that I’ve had some of those experiences ever since I was little and tiny.  So, he used to feel real comfortable talking with me.  And every once in a while he would bring out these oddities related to UFOs.  And he brought out both of those incidents (B52 and trip to Arizona base).  He didn’t elaborate much on them other than that they occurred and the essence of them."

The above interview, if we are to assume that Kellerstrass is passing on an honest version of stories that he was allegedly told, reveals that Dale Graff, as early as 1978, was privately discussing the same exact themes and ideas (the “Philosophy”) that would eventually make its way into the early 80’s versions of the MJ-12 documents, and eventually, Project Serpo.  In 1978, we have Dale Graff discussing:

(1)    A secret book containing information about “EBE”, multiple alien races
(2)    Early history from 10,000 years ago to the time of Christ
(3)    Captured Alien Craft and Bodies/Prisoners
(4)    Aliens as vegetarians
(5)    Their star-system having a double-star, or double-sun.

Other than discussing Aliens with Kellerstraus back in 1978, as outlined in our last article , Dale Graff was acting as a civilian physicist with the Air Force FTD division, and had given a small contract to the SRI research team in order to test the Soviet hypothesis that psi was transmitted via ELF (extremely low frequency) electromagnetic waves.

As outlined in our previous articles, 1978-1979 was clearly a very important year in Remote Viewing research for many reasons.  Additional events of note that took place within this time frame included:

  • DIA took over funding and tasking for the government’s overall RV research.
  • Kit Green began communicating with Maccabee for as much UFO information as possible.
  • Maccabee recognizes this date as signifying the sudden interested of the “RV” folks in the field of ufology.
  • Dale Graff, scientist with Air Force FTD RV program, has been working closely with SRI (Hal Puthoff) on a secret  RV project since 1975.
  • Dale Graff and Dr. Anthony Cacciopo were both involved in the AF Blue Book investigations that took place at Wright AFB.

All of the information listed above, which was supposedly being discussed privately as early as 1978, examined within the context of everything else going on during the same time period, suggests a significant series of events and the beginning of a "movement," which would eventually involve a number of prominent UFO researchers, and turn into one of the longest-running and most significant UFO hoaxes of all time.







February 1, 2008

Alleged Purchase of Classified Documents Sparks Investigation


Recent reports to a U.S. Government official regarding the alleged sale of classified documents, has sparked an investigation into the individuals behind both the solicitation of the buyer, and whether the documents involved are actually authentic government documents.

In early November, Bob Collins, a retired Air Force intelligence officer formerly with the Foreign Technology Division and author of the book Exempt from Disclosure, published a statement in response to questions about an allegedly classified document from his book entitled “Adam and Eve Report”. In his online comments he wrote:

“It wasn’t Officially Declassified anymore than other material I have here. No government agency would acknowledge any of it, the same for the DIA docs. I paid Rick for his services so the material belongs to me…..Rmc”

Several sources who were part of the email discussions report that Collins further stated that the “Adam & Eve” information came from Richard C. Doty’s sources in 1999 when they had allegedly received payment from millionaire and philanthropist Joe Firmage in exchange for still-classified documents.

According to the government source familiar with the investigation, Richard Doty told Bob Collins that his sources were LANL (Los Alamos National Laboratory) employees, however would not provide those names. The source indicated that a preliminary investigation revealed that there were no such documents, and there were no reports of any security breach at the National Lab in or around 1999, and there were no such documents related to any past security breaches.

If true, and depending on the nature of, and intended use of this information, this activity could represent a form of espionage. Espionage, in the United States, is classified as “The act of obtaining, delivering, transmitting, communicating, or receiving information about the national defense with an intent, or reason to believe, that the information may be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation. Espionage is a violation of 18 United States Code 792-798 and Article 106, Uniform Code of Military Justice[1].”

Several members of the forum and individuals copied on private email exchanges reported these statements to a U.S. Official within the Intelligence community, in a position to investigate.

This official initiated an investigation into these complaints, and conducted preliminary interviews with Richard C. Doty and Robert Collins prior to passing the complaints on to CI (Counter-Intelligence) Staff. It is uncertain at this point whether a formal report has yet been submitted to the Justice Department for further investigation.

In a similar case in 1995, John Douglas Charlton, a retired Lockheed Corporation engineer, was arrested for attempting to sell secret documents removed from the company when he retired. These documents concerned Sea Shadow, a Navy stealth project and the Captor Project related to mines that could release anti-sub torpedoes. According to the espionage indictment, Charlton tried to sell the information to an FBI agent posing as a foreign government representative.

“Hill, an Air Force veteran, was paid $25,000 for files from November 1999 until last week, according to a six-page complaint filed in U.S. District Court in New York. He was arrested Friday in Las Vegas after allegedly faxing classified information drawn from computer files to an FBI informant in New York.”

If the Adam & Eve documents have any sort of classified information, as implied by those who’ve released them – Rick Doty, or whoever else took part in the financial exchange, can face up to 15 to 20 years in prison and a $500,000 fine if convicted.

If the documents are fake or fabricated – it is likely the investigation will simply be dropped.

 

Originally submitted November 15th, 2007 – RealityUncovered.com



Filed under: Aviary,Serpo,The Core Story,UFOlogy — Tags: , , , , , — Stephen Broadbent @ 1:20 am




January 22, 2008

Nothing Lasts Forever – Update


The following summary uncovers the motive behind the UFOlogy scam as operated by the Imaginary Intelligence Agency (IIA) outlined in our previously published “Nothing Lasts Forever” article.

“Imaginary Intelligence Agency” is a Fairly Unique Name Designating an Illicit Networking Group, or “FUNDING” for short.

This group of individuals have managed to create an illusion so great and vast in scope that millions of people now believe that Earth is being visited by highly advanced Extra Terrestrial life forms. We are also led to believe that these same highly advanced life forms crashed as soon as they arrived, leaving us with a legacy of reverse engineered anti-gravity drives, zero point energy devices, stealth technology and a concise history of the Universe stored on a hologram.

Why would this group want to create such an illusion in the first place you might ask? There are a large number of possible motives for such an endeavour. Disinformation and Counter Intelligence operations are just two hypotheses that have been cited for many of the strange stories in the public domain. While it is certainly true that various bona fide Intelligence agencies have conducted UFO-related activities of this nature in the past, one has to look elsewhere for the real reason this particular so-called “Core Story” continues to constantly re-emerge with newer and stranger additions.

As with nearly all such stories that end up being nothing more than faked tales of fiction, the common denominator linking them all together is financial gain – and that is no different in this case. We are not talking about book sales or the lecture circuit. The financial gain referred to here goes much deeper and involves many wealthy individuals who have been manipulated to part with staggeringly vast amounts of their money in order to fund “investigation and research” into those fringe areas of science which have greatly benefitted from – and in some cases depend upon – the very existence of those fictional crashed flying saucer stories in the first place.

Our -almost finished- report will name the people behind this long running scam and show in great detail how easily they managed to hoodwink the entire UFO community so successfully and for so long.



Filed under: Aviary,Serpo,The Core Story,Ufology History — Tags: , , , — Stephen Broadbent @ 4:28 am




July 3, 2007

Nothing Lasts Forever


We’ve all heard of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA), along with a myriad of other, acronym rich organisations tasked mostly with the job of keeping tabs on the bad guys.

I think it’s a safe bet to assume that none of you have ever heard of the “Imaginary Intelligence Agency”.

The IIA are so secretive, and so adept at maintaining that secrecy, that not even the operatives and field agents under its command know of its existence! This particular agency is run, like all others, on a strictly need-to-know basis, with the IIA’s “Director” deciding only he has that right to know. It may sound like a strange setup, but the agency has been running operations successfully for over three decades now – all completely undetected.

The unwitting agents of the IIA are collectively responsible for completely changing the face of modern UFOlogy. A central meme exists today that has absolutely no basis in reality, yet is accepted as fact by millions around the world. The director of the IIA has successfully hoodwinked not only the average person in the street, but he has also conned those agents working for him into thinking they are carrying out highly important and officially sanctioned work.

Our impending report will, amongst other things;

• Name the man behind the curtain
• Conclusively show how the deception was achieved and maintained
• Explain the purpose of the central meme
• Name the fictional support stories
• Provide a list of agent’s names

We already know what to expect from those that do not want to see the truth revealed. It started a week ago and is beginning to gather a small head of steam. So expect to see many ludicrous and untrue statements about us made in the coming days. Anyone in their right mind will see that exactly for what it is. Distraction.

Full report to follow.



Filed under: Aviary,Serpo,The Core Story — Tags: , , , — Stephen Broadbent @ 7:34 pm




June 21, 2007

Enemy of the State?


 

Wonderful, yet more nonsense has been released by those “mysterious” folk in the DIA, Believe that and you will also believe those “Drone” pictures doing the rounds are genuine too…

The latest batch of Serpo releases come prefaced with the following information:

Victor Martinez wrote:
“The Gate 3 Incident” is a subject that originally came up in December 2005 when I was in regular communication with ANONYMOUS of the “Project SERPO” disclosures.

Because someone let the “genie out of the bottle” (Paul McGovern?), I have now been given permission to release the following still CLASSIFIED information.

 

Isn’t that a perfect example of an oxymoron?

Does Victor have any idea what the penalties are for releasing classified material into the public domain? I guess not! Good job this is all only “E-N-T-E-R-T-A-I-N-M-E-N-T”, if any of this stuff were genuine his ass would have been hauled off to jail long before he even had the chance to post it.

Incidentally, isn’t it amazing how the dead can continue to post emails and engage in online discussions?

There was also this little nugget:

– BEGIN – ——————————————
This is raw intelligence material and dissemination to unauthorized personnel is prohibited.

This attachment was not given a security classification.

 

RU forum member Ray comments:

Anyone, regardless of their experience with the rules of military classifications, can see that these two statements are contradictory. However, those of us who know the rules of classified (or even potentially classified, such as “raw intel”) information are aware “raw intelligence” falls into the category of “classified working papers”. All such papers are required to be assigned a security classification, even if it is “UNCLASSIFIED”…it is positively stated as such.

People who have clearances are laughing their a$$es off at this gem!

You know, you could be forgiven for thinking the people giving Victor this stuff are making these mistakes on purpose… Either that or they haven’t got a clue how things really get done. Hmm, I wonder which one it is, maybe a bit of both?

It reminds me of all the long-discredited fake photos that Mr. Doty gave Victor to post on a regular basis, with the obligatory “assurances” that they were genuine.

Some people never learn, it seems!

Cheers,
Zep



Filed under: Disinfo,Serpo,The Core Story — Tags: , , , , , — Stephen Broadbent @ 2:23 am




April 21, 2007

The ET Republic


If latest events in this sector of the UFOlogy arena are anything to go by, we are led to believe that the “Powers That Be” in the USA hold all of the aces with regard to ET disclosure. These highly secretive individuals, we are told, are in possession of a knowledge that has thus far proved so devastating in its implications that only a select few have ever been privy to this earth shattering information.

Some of this information has leaked out into the public domain of course. Little snippets here and there, all filtered into the system with the prime objective designed around the gradual seeding in the collective consciousness of the reality of ET life.

Eventually we are sold tales of crashed discs and meetings with offworld civilizations. We are to believe that the US are in posession of alien technology and have used reverse-engineering in order to use that technology for their own purposes. Why anyone would want to reverse engineer something that clearly does not work in the manner it was designed to should be beside the point. Not only are we supposed to believe all of the above, we are also supposed to believe that out of all of the thousands and thousands of people that must have been involved in such a gargantuan coverup effort, not one single shred of hard evidence has ever been forthcoming. That is truly something!

Perhaps the crashed discs and the reverse-engineering are all fabrications as part of the seeding operation. That would certainly make more sense and would require far fewer people being in the loop in order to be successful. This is however not what these shadowy insiders are telling us. They ARE in fact telling us that ET came for a visit, crashed while parking, had a slight problem with immigration, but eventually phoned home and got it all sorted out. They also liked the natives so much they thought the folks back home would too, so they duly arranged for the lovely humans to go and visit their place in the sun(s). On the flip side, one of them liked the US so much he decided to stay there.

It must have been a pretty boring life for the little fella, what with trips to Disney World and walks in the park obviously not on the agenda. Instead, he would have to get used to being moved around in huge secrecy and with armed guards and monitors following his every waking and sleeping move. I don’t really understand what the ET would have liked about that kind of existence, but it must have been consentual otherwise our guys and gals wouldn’t have had such a homely and welcoming experience on his planet now would they? Actually, maybe that part was completely made up, as part of the plausibe deniability aspect to the story. Bit of an odd concept that, don’t you think?

Ok, maybe there wasn’t an exchange program after all, but that would mean that the poor old ET guy would have been held here against his will. What kind of message would that send to his people? Then again, we are supposed to believe that the ET’s apparently didn’t care that one of their craft crash-landed on a foreign planet. They didn’t feel the need to attempt to launch a rescue and recovery operation in order to get their people and equipment back. They must have known we were far behind them in technological terms so the idea of their property falling into the hands of the humans must have given them pause for thought, at the very least! That single crashed craft could change the whole course of history for the planet in question. It appears they need an alien version of the Prime Directive if you ask me. Oh wait, wait a minute. Some reports tell us they might have launched a rescue operation if the number of reported crashes are anything to go by. Guess what though? Yep, they crashed too. I guess they gave it up as a bad job after that and went home. Then again, maybe they tried repeatedly. And crashed repeatedly. Dumb aliens eh!

So, regardless of what actually transpired in order for there to be something to disclose, the simple fact is, apparently, that there is something to disclose. And only the US are in on the deal. Let’s not forget that part of the story. Over 6 billion people live on this planet of ours, with many different races and religions thrown into the wonderful mix that comprises humanity.

However, if certain blog accounts are to be believed, the vast majority of humanity does not have a say in this disclosure. Nope, the only people being taken into account are those of the christian faith that understand English. If Christ isn’t your saviour then sorry, you don’t appear to be part of this particular story. The end times are a-coming but before rising up to heaven we will be told everything we need to know about the aliens.

We assume of course, that these English speaking aliens with an apparent love for the American way of life are quite happy to allow just one nation to speak for the rest of the world.

“We are here, but please don’t tell those pesky Europeans or the troublesome Chinese about it just yet, we don’t really trust them. The Russians?! The Muslim and Hindu States!? Get outta here buddy! It’s baseball and strawberry ice cream for us. You can let those funky Tibetan monks in on the deal though, they have some groovy tunes baby!”

We are also being told we might now have to wait until the next US elections before we will be informed that our lives have changed forever. Elections in other countries are of no importance of course. The rest of the world’s governments go about their daily business blissfully unaware that their future on this planet is being decided by a very small number of people who send cryptic email messages to each other and occasionally allow a select few mere mortals to sneak a quick glimpse at the forbidden knowledge.

Don’t worry about it folks, disclosure is coming and it will be done through the medium of obscure web blogs and relatively small online forums. How else did you think it would happen?

Someone’s laughing, Lord, kumbaya…

Cheers,
Zep



Filed under: Aviary,Disclosure,ET,Serpo,The Core Story,Ufology History,UFOs — Tags: , , , , , — Stephen Broadbent @ 1:05 am




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