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February 10, 2010

The Questions that Gordon Novel Won’t Answer

I sent the following email to Gordon Novel on February 5th, 2010. I’ve heard some rumors of grandstanding by Ed Komarek, a hard-core believer/Exopolitics type who doesn’t understand any of what’s going on – but has a strong desire for the limelight.

Of course, I’ve also heard about some random observations by Dan Smith – Ron’s go-to mouthpiece when he needs to distribute something quickly in order to distract the believers. But I’ve yet to hear another peep from Gordon Novel regarding the specific issues covered in these questions. The questions are fairly lengthy, so he could be working diligently on them. I was hoping to publish his answers to the following questions at least this week on RealityUncovered – but it looks like it may be next week.

The Feedback From Sending Out the Questions

The questions below created quite a ripple in the days after I sent them out. First, Gordon tacked on a long list of individuals who needed to approve the interview before he would answer them (for the record – Kit Green immediately emailed his approval).

The second thing that happened is that Ron immediately emailed me and scorned my “police interrogation-like interview approach.” He said that I should let Gordon define the relationship between himself and Gordon rather than my implying the relationship in the question. I responded that the email exchanges we have in hand stand as evidence to the true relationship.

Subsequently, Ron then attempted to distract and change the subject of this discussion in his follow-up conversations with Dan Smith, by sending Dan Smith on a wild goose chase regarding his new main squeeze from Kashmir who he now refers to as “princess.” Ron told Dan that I take the scams too seriously. Of course, to Ron, it’s all a joke.

The Standing Questions – Still Unanswered

Without further ado – here is the question list I sent to Gordon. Five days later, I’ve received nothing. Are we to assume no comment? The following is copyrighted RealityUncovered.net – if any of the information below is used or copied anywhere else, a link-back to this particular blog entry is required.

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From: Ryan Dube
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 01:33:51 -0500
To: Gordon Novel

Subject: Interview Questions

Hi Gordon – here are the questions and topics that I was hoping to discuss with you on the phone in a recorded interview format. As you requested, I am sending them first to your son, Jim Marrs and Ron. I’ve also cc’d Steve as he is co-owner of RealityUncovered where we would like to publish this interview with you.

Here are the questions:

1. The FOIA CIA Security File on Gordon Novel

According to CIA Security Record number 104-10305-10000, throughout the years you repeatedly claimed affiliation with the CIA. On page 4 the CIA memo states:

“Sergeant Haas was advised that a Gordon Novel, believed to be identical to the Gordon Novel of interest to Fort Lauderdale’s Organized Crime Division, is not now nor has he ever been an employee or employed in any capacity with the CIA. The undersigned added that since the late 60’s, Gordon Novel has periodically claimed employment with the CIA.”

Question: Can you confirm or deny the statement on this CIA document that alleges that you’d been claiming CIA employment since the 60’s?

Page 7 of this official CIA file reads:

“Subject advised that he had an economic formula which would solve the world dollar dumping crisis – IR – 9 February 1973″

Question: Can you confirm or deny this claim?

Page 10 from the CIA file notes the following from 1980:

“…and in the ensuing conversation Novel indicated that he was involved in a ‘commercial venture’ and felt that the results might be of interest to “ONI”. He indicated, in essence, that his project involved outfitting a “fast patrol craft” with various means of testing defense systems (NFI).”

Question: Is it true that you approached ONI with such a commercial venture in 1980? Did ONI pursue it?

2. Kingdom’s Come Film Project

As late as 2008, you were working on funding a film project called “Kingdom’s Come.”

Question: What ever became of the project?

According to our sources, in 2008 you attempted to create a pitch for Dan Smith to give Jim Marrs a $6000 retainer in order to put together two powerpoint presentations – one for RAM (formerly RAAM) and one for Kingdom’s Come.

Question: Can you confirm or deny, and did Dan ever provide the money to Marrs?

Question: Did Jim Marrs ever put together the script for Kingdom’s Come?

4. RAM Conferences and Final Breakdown

Question: In 2008, is it true that you charged about $11,000 to your credit cards to put together the conference for SARA that year?

Question: When you requested Ron’s help with that debt, did he assist you or did he leave you hanging with that debt?

Question: Since Paul Murad and Morgan Boardman are now collaborating directly, and have bypassed you and RAM completely, do you have plans to pursue legal action against Murad for defaulting on the NDA that he signed with you?

Question: If so, is RAM (or your company that’s listed as a party on the NDA) an officially registered business name in the state where you live?

5. Ron Pandolfi’s Role

In 2006, you received an email that detailed some statements that Kit allegedly wrote disparaging comments about you and about RAM. Subsequently, Ron convinced you that the note was likely faked by Majestic.

Question: Do you recall this event and those emails? Was that the first time that Ron has ever referred to “Majestic” or “Majic” as a real group in his communications with you?

You initially met Ron at a private dinner party where Dan Smith brought you along as an uninvited guest. Ron remained friends with you since then, yet you consistently refer to his relationship with you as being related in some way to his official work with CIA – such as in July of 2009 when you wrote the following to Morgan Boardman:

“RAM is to me in great measure an official U.S.Intelligence business.”

Question:Has Ron ever presented his relationship with you in any way as part of his official CIA business? If so, could you share the email or document where he did so?

In July of 2009, I was aware of some strange answers Ron provided to some folks who were asking him if Ron officially supported you. I thought his answers were rather odd, and when I asked him why he didn’t just flat out tell the truth, Ron Pandolfi answered as follows (source email available upon request):

“You can tell Steve that when anyone asks about Gordon I give them a straight enough response, that is straight enough if they are somewhat in contact with reality. Otherwise nothing I might say would help. I am also straight with Gordon. But frankly the idea of a guy running around the country saying he has the backing of CIA to reverse engineer a UFO using parts from old cars and junk electrical circuits is really funny!”

Question: In your recent email to me, you wrote, “RP should still be willing to confirm that I am no one’s fool including his.” Given Ron’s statement above, would you like to make a public response to him?

6. Hal Puthoff’s Role

In 2007, Ron Pandolfi made a statement via email regarding Hal’s involvement in Baker’s “Gravity Wave” research. In an email response, Hal denied involvement, and downplayed his interest and involvement with you (and with RAM) in comparison when he wrote:

“Yes, Eric is listed on Bob Baker’s website as being part of the “Grav Wave Team,” but it’s just like I’m listed as being Gordon Novel’s chief scientist because I answer questions when he calls me (my answers not usually to his liking, I might add!).”

Yet – in your recent report, you clearly detail how involved Hal actually was in communicating with you regarding RAM:

Page 20: “Hal Puthoff, whose intellect is truly without peer, once let me read a deep black unpublished paper of his that explained how he thought the zero-point field (ZPF) caused gravity.”
Page 68: “…it is possible to have fluctuations beyond unity in which the Second Law is violated, or so I am told by Hal.”
Page 90: “…Were it not for being privileged to know the good Doctor (Puthoff) and his wonderful family, I seriously doubt that I would have continued my high interest in the ARV/UFO matter, much less be writing this case treatise for his critical scrutiny.”
Page 90: “A paper Dr. Puthoff furnished me when we met is extremely relevant to the How-To function of the ARV system.”
Page 143: “About that same time (1995), Hal Puthoff sent me a very informative paper in response to my query on the rest mass voltage…”
Page 179: “…as Dr. Puthoff will confirm from discussions we had in 1994 and some CAD/CAM graphics that I sent him in 1995.”
Page 230: “Further, the statements of UFO contactees and abductees, the crash report of Rennie Beicker (according to Hal Puthoff)…”

Question: Your descriptions seem to extend beyond Hal’s description of simple phone calls. Could you offer your response to Hal’s statement above to Ron, downplaying his involvement with you regarding RAM?

Those are all of the non-engineering questions, but I suppose that’s more than enough for now, for an interesting recorded interview that covers all of the major points. Let me know when you’re ready.

Thanks Gordon,
-Ryan

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Filed under: UFOlogy, Weird, fringe science — Tags: fringe science, gordon novel, RAM, RAM Project, Ron Pandolfi — RyanDube @ 5:48 pm

January 16, 2010

Jack Sarfatti Submits Police Report on Gordon Novel’s Threats

sarfatti1 This is the image of a man who you do not want to send a threat to over the Internet. This video was received today, around 4:30pm Eastern Time, from physicist Jack Sarfatti who has decided that he has had enough of Gordon Novel’s steady stream of threats and attacks. Over the past few days, Jack Sarfatti has accumulated a pile of evidence from recent emailed threats of physical violence from Gordon Novel and his son Sur Novel.

As an online exchange, the long thread of emails appeared as little more than minor Internet drama – a simple disagreement between two men. However, in the form which Jack has laid out each item of evidence, he makes a very convincing case that Gordon Novel may actually be a very real and present public threat.

Jack Sarfatti’s Case Against Gordon Novel

The documented evidence which Jack has compiled and, as of today (January 16, 2010) submitted to his local police department and the feds, details a very long string of very serious and terrorizing threats of harm. The following list includes the evidence Jack submitted today.

Jack’s opening comments in his formal complaint reads as follows:

“An allegedly armed delusional violent ex-convict felon Gordon Dwayne Novel (DOB Feb 7, 1938, New Orleans LA) allegedly now living in Santa Monica, California and his son Sur Novel, allegedly flying to Los Angeles, California from Bangkok, Thailand to aid and abet his father’s violent threats, have been using the internet to send me harassing e-mails with threats of severe bodily harm including castration, blinding in both eyes, ripping off of ears, breaking of bones. Gordon and Sur Novel have threatened to stalk me and attack me in a restaurant in San Francisco when I least expect it. Gordon Novel has a history of making such violent threats to many people some of whom I have copied in the cc list. I would like to press criminal charges against both Gordon Novel and his son Sur Novel for their violation of Statute 18 U.S.C. § 875(c) and under California Penal Code 422. I will file formal complaints in person with SFPD, SF District Attorney and San Francisco Office of the FBI ASAP.”

If you read the statute that Jack refers to, it quickly becomes apparent that he actually has a serious legal right to press criminal charges. Jack continues on with his evidence of those threats.

—>Start of Appended Evidence of Terrorizing Threats from Gordon Novel and Sur Novel<—

Exhibit A:

On January 3, 2010 4:26:02 AM PST, Gordon Novel wrote about his son, Sur Novel:

“His abilities to maim, injure and torture are nearly beyond belief and his opponents scream as he breaks their arms and legs, tears off their ears, rips off their private parts and then blinds them permanently. I dearly wish you had never called him out as I am not really mad at you. Sur now is! I will say a sincere prayer I can persuade him to accept your apology and pray that your not suicidially insane.”

Stalking threat

“he will come find you having lunch and tear your weak old ass into to small pieces before you even know what happened.”

“End the fight with him now before he walks up and joins you for lunch somewhere when you least expect it and you become his main course. He is way beyond a terribly dangerous foe and”

Explicit maiming and death threat

“He can pierce your belly with a karate open hand and rip your guts out before you know what happened.”

“He can cut you to pieces with his bare hands and break both your arms and legs in the process. Killing is not his style. Pain and excruciating torture is. It will take him no more than 90 seconds as he is like a surgeon. If you recover and survive it will likely take a year before you can walk or drive again.”

Exhibit B:

“If I have to come to California, then I will….and I will rent Dad a car, give him money and send him directly to see how funny you are in person. And then the tide my turn for the worse for you… Keep that in mind.

Regards,

Sur”

Sur Novel Jan 1, 2010 to Jack Sarfatti Sur Novel is the son of Gordon Novel allegedly a member of the Bar in New York State who lives in Bangkok.

Exhibit C:

“I don’t think even you know how close Paul came to dying. Jack had no cause to attack me today and I am now going to have cause to punish him good for doing it. In due time Jack old chap.”

Gordon Novel to Jack Sarfatti Dec 30, 2009 “Paul” is Paul Murad a DIA employee at the time Gordon Novel brandished a knife at him in Fairfax, Virginia.

Detailed e-mails with long headers will be provided.

—>End of Appended Evidence of Terrorizing Threats from Gordon Novel and Sur Novel<—

sarfatti2 Today, Jack Sarfatti collected together all of his documentation, and during his walk to the Hall of Justice he snapped a quick video as proof. As he walked down the street, he captured the image of his face while he stated, “Heading to the Hall of Justice, San Francisco…”

If there is anything that anyone could ever truthfully say about Jack Sarfatti, it is this: He is not a man you should threaten.

The larger picture in all of this is the question that still remains – what’s this all about? All of this is part of the fallout from the breakoff between Gordon Novel and Paul Murad related to Gordon’s “RAM” project, previously reported on here at RealityUncovered. We’ve chronicled the CIA documents that detail Gordon’s past efforts to sell bogus technologies, even to the U.S. government. The question remains – what exactly was the purpose of Gordon’s “RAM” project, and what will happen now that all of the support for his efforts – from both the fringe scientists and from Ron Pandolfi – has fallen apart? What comes next for Gordon Novel?

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Filed under: fringe science — Tags: fringe science, gordon novel, paul murad, RAM, Ron Pandolfi — RyanDube @ 10:05 pm

October 27, 2009

Who Exactly Is Gordon Novel and What is RAM?

gnovel Over the past few years, the topic of Gordon Novel has come up surrounding the question of alleged government involvement in the field of Ufology. The question of government involvement usually focuses on the two issues of sociological study and/or the monitoring of advanced technological advancements. For anyone who has had any insight into the real man named Gordon Novel – neither subjects immediately come to mind. As of a few years ago, his name was never associated with Ufology either. The JFK assassination? Yes. UFOs? No. So why now? First, a little history.

The JFK Madness and Gordon’s Part

Instead of detailing the sordid past – there’s more than enough material on the web covering this aspect of Gordon’s activities – I’m going to quote from one of the best sources for learning about Gordon’s JFK association. That is an article titled, “Gordon Novel: CIA Agent or Con Artist?” by Dave Reitzes. If you’re curious about the accuracy of what Dave has written – just review the first part of that page where Gordon Novel has repeatedly threatened Dave to take down the page. Obviously there’s something there Gordon doesn’t want people to know.

Here’s a repost of some assorted notes on Novel, beginning with the subject that brought Novel his original notoriety — his claim that a munitions burglary he participated in had actually been a CIA operation.

This is, in fact, what lies at the heart of Gordon’s alleged JFK investigation involvement.

Contrary to later claims by participant Gordon Novel (a self-proclaimed electronics expert who was working with Garrison until Garrison decided that Novel’s associations were suspicious and subpoenaed him as a witness, whereupon Novel left the state), the heist appears to have been, in fact, a simple burglary, not the CIA “weapons transfer” alleged in many conspiracy books (cf. New Orleans States-Item, May 25, 1967; Grand Jury transcript of Rancier Blaise Ehlinger, March 30, 1967). Nevertheless, even Gus Russo reports the incident as a CIA weapons transfer (Russo, Live by the Sword [Baltimore: Bancroft, 1998], pp. 150-53).

This is only partially true – a few years ago I spoke with Gus on the phone when he was working on an article covering alleged CIA Ufology involvement for Dan Smith. During that phone conversation, he mentioned his past investigation and work on the JFK assassination, so I asked him for his opinion about Gordon Novel, because for a few years RU investigations have seen him poking his head around the fringes of the Ufology crowd. Russo’s opinion of him was swift and clear, he essentially reported that Gordon was pretty much just a phony.

The oddest part of the Dave Reitzes piece is that Gordon wrote to Dave denying his CIA claims, even though they are well documented in Dave’s article, throughout the Internet as well as throughout the many mailing lists that Gordon currently uses to distribute his “RAM” promotional diatribes. With that said – there are a number of scientists that do support and promote Gordon – we’ll get to them in future posts.

According to one account by Gordon Novel, “It was one of the most patriotic burglaries ever committed . . . the CIA virtually gave us the key to the bunker . . . my fellow burglar, Arcacha Smith, and I are still employed by the CIA” (A. J. Weberman Web site, Nodule 21).

RU investigators have been privy to Gordon’s claims in our own investigation of the “RAM Project,” an odd assortment of fringe scientists who have been collaborating with Gordon for years in attempting to extract risk capital investments from wealthy investors. What’s the project? It’s a reverse-engineering effort to, put simply, reverse-engineer a UFO “craft” using the most “advanced” propulsion technology available to mankind.

The fact that the alleged propulsion technology proposed by these scientists currently can’t even lift a balloon into the sky, let alone a heavy craft, completely flies over the head of many investors. They have more money than they know what to do with (they really don’t care if they lose it – that’s the nature of risk capital), and not enough brains to differentiate between fact and fiction. As long as there’s a possibility that such technology could exist at some point makes some of them open up their pocketbooks to the snake oil salesmen.

We’ve also seen the claims Gordon has made in emails to potential investors – claims related to his alleged connection with CIA as late as July 2009. These claims stem from his contacts with the elusive and mysterious “RP.”

When potential investors confront “RP” directly about such claims, he will often write an obscure diatribe that hints at a deeper meaning – a metaphorical collection of words and potential clues. “Believer” investors think he’s hinting at authentic CIA involvement. RP bcc’s these emails to friends that he considers as “sane” as though it’s a joke. I asked him once how he can find a $200 million scam funny. His response was, “Because I know the $200 million scam will only turn into a $200 fraud.” The man has a strange, sick sense of humor. Is it possible it’s because he was slapped on the wrist and placed in the “back room” (weird-desk) after his episode in the Hughes/China fiasco in the late 1990s and he needed something to occupy his active mind and his private time? Maybe. One thing we do know is that he uses Gordon in the same way he uses Dan Smith.

Gordon Novel’s CIA Involvement

Imagine it’s 1998, and word gets back to the CIA that someone out there is claiming to be a CIA operative as part of the JFK assassination conspiracy madness.

The CIA Office of Security conducts a brief investigation, and as a result we have this declassified documentation – an internal memo/documentation contained in CIA security file record number: 104-10305-10000. Page four of the file states:

“Sergeant Haas was advised that a Gordon Novel, believed to be identical to the Gordon Novel of interest to Fort Lauderdale’s Organized Crime Division, is not now nor has he ever been an employee or employed in any capacity with the CIA. The undersigned added that since the late 60’s, Gordon Novel has periodically claimed employment with the CIA.”

Why was Gordon claiming CIA connections? The page 5 incident report lays it out nicely:

He is claiming to be affiliated with the Agency and under this guise has approached several companies specializing in electronic surveillance. It is for this reason that caller wishes to verify SUBJECT’s employment.

Another clue, from page 7:

Subject advised that he had an economic formula which would solve the world dollar dumping crisis – IR – 9 February 1973

Another clue, from page 10, dated 1980:

…and in the ensuing conversation Novel indicated that he was involved in a “commercial venture” and felt that the results might be of interest to “ONI”. He indicated, in essence, that his project involved outfitting a “fast patrol craft” with various means of testing defense systems (NFI).

In the conversation above, Gordon claimed, once again, an affiliation with the CIA. Page 16 reads:

Mr. Jameson also requested traces on two individuals who are alleged to have been involved in this matter — Larry Blanscett and Bridget Pfiffer. He was advised that the Office of Security had no record of either of these individuals.

Now – while it’s clear that this particular individual has a long history of attempting to “sell” his commercial ventures, what’s a little bit strange is the question of whether he works alone. The introduction of the two individuals above suggests one of two things. It may be possible that Gordon Novel was working alone and invented those identities of his own accord. However, it might also be possible that there are others, either faking Intel involvement, or misrepresenting their actual Intel status and position, in order to manipulate and use this figure from the organized crime community. While the knee-jerk reaction is to suggest that this is an official, covert action of a U.S. Intelligence agency – a more likely possibility is that it is part of an organized, private effort that actively exploits such “believers” for their own financial purposes.

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Filed under: CIA, Disclosure, Disinfo, UFOlogy — Tags: Fraud, fringe science, gordon novel, Ron Pandolfi — RyanDube @ 2:49 am

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