January 28, 2010

John Alexander – Mr. Non-Lethal With Many Hands in Many Pots



John Alexander

Rtd Col John Alexander. Copyright: Sam Morris, Las Vegas Sun


John B. Alexander. Who is this man? Many people have heard of him in different capacities and within different contexts. Some are aware of his technical work in the field of non-lethal weapons – in fact, he is a man who has been deeply involved within the military-industrial complex for many years. Other people know of him from his very early days in the U.S. Army from 1956 through 1988, when he finally retired as a Colonel.

The man is no slouch – having served time in Vietnam leading Special Forces teams. After the war was over, he worked his way up through the ranks until his last position as the Director at the Advanced systems Concepts Office under General Stubblebine.

As many people know, the Ufologist who was the original victim (or collaborator) of an elaborate effort to distribute MJ-12 documents upon the Ufology community was Bill Moore. Bill Moore eventually reported the names of all of his contacts during those MJ-12 years (1980s) in the form of his “Aviary” list of contacts. John Alexander was one of those contacts.

Coincidentially, John Alexander’s retirement from military/government work and his entry into private research at Los Alamos National Laboratory somewhat coincided with Hal Puthoff’s 1985 retirement from his Remote Viewing government contract and entry into private research at his privately owned research institute in Texas. Hal was also a member of Moore’s “Aviary” list of contacts. Coincidentally, Dr. Christopher “Kit” Green also retired from full time government work (CIA) in 1985 to enter into private industry as well, doing neuroscience work for General Motors.

At Los Alamos, Alexander began his work on Non-Lethal Defense technologies. Like Kit Green, he maintained contractual connections with government agencies, attended conferences and conducted briefings or talks for various U.S. Government and Intelligence organizations as well as collaborating and heading up various research endeavors with organizations throughout Industry and Academia. His non-lethal technology work is very public. He has wrtten articles in The Boston Globe and the Washington Post, and his work has been featured in publications like Scientific American, Wired and TV programs like CNN and Dateline. Now that you have an idea of the man’s public life, it’s time to dig deeper and explore into the man’s private endeavors that many people in the general public don’t know a whole lot about.

Dumpster Diving into Ufology

Like Kit Green and Hal Puthoff, John Alexander was listed by Bill Moore and others as a “U.S. Intelligence Contact” throughout the mid and late 1980s. Coincidentally, the public release of MJ-12 perfectly coincided with the military/government retirements of these men. What other evidence is there regarding the specifics of Alexander’s involvement with Ufologists during the mid to late 1980’s?

Once again, Bob Collin’s book Exempt from Disclosure leaks more information into the public domain that was previously hidden in secrecy, or at least obscurity. Also like Hal, Kit and most of Moore’s other contacts, Alexander has a direct connection to the parapsychology research that was ongoing within the military at the time. In particular, John Alexander worked under General Albert “Bert” Stubblebine III within INSCOM – looking for ways to improve the psychic performance of the military remote viewers.

In fact, according to “Remote Viewers: The Secret History of America’s Psychic Spies”, by Jim Schnabel, Stubblebine signed contracts with the Monroe Institute to test various hypnosis techniques to enhance remote viewer’s performance.

The Turning Point – When Paranormal Research Results in Disaster


John Alexander (Los Alamos), Gordon Novel, and John's wife Victoria


In 1984, General Stubblebine sent an officer to the Monroe Institute for another “RV enhancement” test. According to one of our sources, the technique that the Monroe institute applied to this particular officer was one where all stimuli was removed from the environment. Clothes, lights or sounds were all removed, leaving the officer stark naked in a pitch-black room. The event led to the officer having a psychotic breakdown, and finally Stubblebine’s “retirement” in 1984.

We’re talking about a man, now featured in the major motion film “The Men Who Stare at Goats” as repeatedly attempting to walk through a wall, only to collide with it. We confirmed with several sources that this really took place.

What does all of this have to do with Ufology? Well, psychic phenomenon was not all Stubblebine or Alexander were interested in. In 1991, years after his retirement, Stubblebine, C.B. Scott Jones, and two Ufologists Victoria Lacas and Rima Laibow (who later became his second wife), traveled throughout Europe and the Soviet Union conducting research (and making contacts) into UFO and Psychic phenomenon there. Later, Stubblebine and his new wife Rima held “spoon-bending” parties for their elite friends and colleagues.

How much was Alexander involved with Stubblebine and C.B. Scott Jones in all of this research? Well, Victoria Lacas is now Victoria Alexander – John’s wife. Read Victoria’s comments about the film “The Men Who Stare at Goats.” In the 1990’s, John went on to work part-time for Bigelow-funded National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS), alongside the usual fringe-research folks – Hal Puthoff, Kit Green, Kolm Kelleher and others.

And for those of you who thought Gordon Novel only recently popped up on the Ufology radar in recent years with his strange “RAM” project – take another good, long look at the photo above.

John Alexander and Ufology

On Page 8 of Exempt from Disclosure, under a section titled “Summits without the cocktails, the fall of 1986,” Collins writes:

“Ernie Kellerstrass had Bill Moore, Jaime Shandera, Hal Puthoff, Col. John Alexander (author of the book, Future War), Scott Jones (assistant for Senator Pell), and I over to his house in Beavercreek, OH (suburb of Dayton OH) for dinner. All of our meetings were very somber with most of us lookin glike stiffs right out of an “X-Files” show.”

At the time, Alexander was not yet retired, and still actively working on classified remote viewing work while taking part in these private UFO meetings. Given the ongoing activities, up to 2005 and beyond, of many of the individuals listed in this paragraph by Collins, we thought that it is very likely John Alexander is also still involved and active as well.

So, we decided to go straight to the horse’s mouth and ask John Alexander directly about these matters. His responses were interesting. The interesting part was more in what he chose not to answer, rather than what he answered.

The John Alexander Interview

Ryan: On Page 8 of Exempt from Disclosure, Collins writes: “[pasted quote above]” – Could you describe why you agreed to take part in this “summit without the cocktails” in 1986, with personalities like Kellerstrass and Ufologists Bill Moore and Jaime Shandera?

John: Don’t understand the question or context. Did meet him once. Certainly no summit.

Ryan: The context was a meeting in 1986 at Ernie Kellerstrass’ house in Beavercreek, Ohio – apparently to discuss some of Ernie’s stories related to UFOs. Again – could you describe why you agreed to meet with Ernie to discuss the topic? Did a friend invite you, or did Ernie himself?

John: Not sure – that was over 20 years ago and not of a great deal of importance.

Ryan: I know that you were involved (are involved) with non-lethal research, and back then it was just about a year or so from your military retirement and entry into private research. Your interest and involvement in the PSI field is well-documented (such as in your book and in the movie) – but I’m trying to understand why you were interested in UFOs and if there was some connection to your PSI work?

John: Am interested in many areas.

Ryan: On page 9, Collins describes a cloak and dagger operation where the members of the group he just outlined all traveled individually to meet with Executive Producer Seligman (the person who eventually produced “Cover Up Live” featuring Collins and Doty) in Dayton, OH at a secluded State Park. Did you take part in this operation to brief Seligman, and if so, why were you specifically involved and what did information did you plan to share with the Executive Producer?

John: No.

Ryan: On page 11, Collins describes yet another meeting in September of 1988 where everyone met in Albuquerque, NM to conduct interviews for the 1988 UFO show. Were you specifically interviewed by the producers of that show either at the Albuquerque interviews or at any other time or place? If so, can you share what information you provided to the producers and why?

John: No.

Ryan: Throughout the years, Collins consistently refers to a secret “Los Alamos” source who discusses UFO/Alien matters with him. Are you that source, and why?

John: No.

Ryan: On November 3rd, 2009, your wife, Victoria Alexander, wrote a review for the movie “The Men who Stare at Goats.” In that review she writes: “John was formerly with the U.S. Army Intelligence & Security Command (INSCOM) under Major General Albert Stubblebine.” We’ve learned that previous to Bert’s retirement, the last incident that led to his departure was related to a case at the Monroe Institute where he subjected an officer to a particular treatment meant to increase psychic ability (we were told it was the removal of all stimuli) which drove the officer into a psychotic state.

Were these events taking place while you were working for Stubblebine – and can you share more details about the event and how it impacted your own personal beliefs and research related to PSI effects?

John: Yes, Pat was not wound too tight to begin with. TMI was a step too far for him, and he had missed the examination process that all of the other attendees went through. He recovered just fine. Bert didn’t, but that’s another story. Recommend you read The Warrior’s Edge. Most of the stuff I wrote in that book.

Final Words

I admit – the interview felt like it was a bit “lacking” in substance or openness. John was evasive and ignored a number of the questions – in a few cases the most important ones. John ignored the importance of that 1986 meeting that Collins described as involving the group of people Moore eventually identified as his list of contacts throughout the MJ-12 affair. The fact that Alexander was on that list, and here he was meeting with other folks related to the topic of UFOs, is very likely not lost on our more discerning readers.

In short, based upon a close review of his history, associates and which pots his hands are in, in combination with his brisk and evasive answers – I have to conclude that John Alexander is far more involved in these particular Ufology matters than he would like people to know about. I am now even more suspicious than ever before that John was one of the integral players in the distribution effort of the MJ-12 memes upon the public domain, starting in the 1980’s and continuing throughout the next several decades to today.

In time, through interviewing additional players, digging further into the background activities and events, and uncovering more about the interactions among the various players – we will be able to definitively prove or disprove that suspicion.



Filed under: Serpo,UFOlogy,UFOs — Tags: , , , , — RyanDube @ 4:34 am




February 4, 2009

Remote Viewing is All About Scientology?


Tarot CardsGary Bekkum of Starstream Research responds to our last update somewhat heatedly at his blog, calling it “naive” to think that the CIA would not know what it is that they were allowing into the government’s scientific domain.  Gary writes:

“REALITY UNCOVERED’s Ryan Dube latest blog post suggests the story behind the AVIARY “Core Story” of US government contact with an intelligence not of this Earth begins with L. Ron Hubbard and the inner teachings of Scientology.”

He goes on to imply that the focus of RU is Scientology, and that we’re drawing some kind of direct connection between Scientology and the “Core Story.”  Even though the article did nothing of the sort.  The intent was to point out what religious-like beliefs can do to destroy a scientific study.

He continues:

“Dube appears so focused on the connection of key researchers at the Stanford Research Institute (SRI) to Scientology that he completely overlooks the game of ‘psychic (cold) warfare’ CIA and KGB initiated at least ten or more years prior to the effort at SRI.”

In fact, the reason we overlook the cold war antics between the CIA and KGB is because they do not factor into the Core Story.  To be clear, there is virtually nothing within government or military that factors into the Core Story.  Nothing, except what the creators decided to filter into it from their own experiences during their time working within those (now declassified) projects. But those connections are superficial at best.

In response, I’ve sent Gary an email trying to clarify what the message of the last article really was.  In that email, I wrote:

“Thanks for your comments Gary – I’ve responded as well.  Based on your opening paragraph you may have misunderstood the article.

The point wasn’t that the source of the “core story” was Scientology…I think a few of  us here would agree that theory was put to bed a long time ago.

The *only* point of the post was that by allowing a religious belief system into a government research program, the government inadvertently introduced into the government scientific community a dangerous instability.  Vallee has noted in his book “Messengers of Deception,” what this instability can do within the general population – it leads to cults.  I’m simply drawing the same sort of parallel to what the government experienced within the Remote Viewing program from the 1970’s through the early 90’s.

What I find fascinating is the point where the military RV’ers – the guys who believed it was important to adhere to the “strict” documented protocols, and guys like Dale Graff who thought it was perfectly okay to allow civilian practitioners of tarot cards, meditation, and various other techniques.  Any insight into those disagreements would be very useful – if you have any documentation on that.  Dale seemed to greatly despise Ed Dames by the way…

Again – these are the sort of things one can expect from spiritual/religious based belief system being used as the foundation for a scientific study.

Best Regards,
-Ryan”

Gary asked me to post my comments, so in the spirit of openness, I’ve posted the email here just in case there were any other readers out there who may not have clearly understood our position on this.

Just remember – the Core Story was created by civilians, not government officials or military insiders.  It is based on a religious-like belief system founded on the interpretation of data that these particular folks consider “hard data,” but which others might not.  Instead of sharing the hard data with us, we get the ridiculous public version of the Core Story – which has morphed through the decades into the pathetic beast that we see today.







February 1, 2009

How Scientologists Created a Cult of the U.S. Government


Swat TeamIn July of 1977, the FBI conducted three early-morning raids of Scientology Guardian Office facilities (the Guardian Office was Hubbard’s Intelligence agency).  Senior GO personnel were sent to jail as a result, and the GO was disestablished afterwards.  Prior to this raid, there was a virtual intelligence war between the cult of Scientologists and U.S. government agencies.  Scientologists dedicated an inordinate amount of resources and time to infiltrating U.S. agencies – even by simply using low-level positions in order to “convert” others within the agency over to Scientology.  L Ron Hubbard’s ultimate goal was to obtain whatever Scientology related documents existed within various government organizations.  L Ron Hubbard had filed countless FOIA lawsuits leading up to that critical point when the FBI raid took place. With these raids, the U.S. intelligence complex dealt Scientology a deadly blow.

The U.S. Government Gets Infected

Meanwhile, due to the volumes of documents released many years later in the 1990s, the public now knows that at the time of these raids, in the 1970’s, the CIA was not averse to using Scientology auditing “technology” through the employment of high-level Scientology OTs.  Keep in mind, these were guys where active members of a cult that was actively taking part in Intelligence warfare with the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies.  Yet the top three guys running the SRI-CIA contract were, all three, high level Scientologists.  One of whom, Hal Puthoff, had such a close relationship with L Ron Hubbard that he even wrote the preface for one of his books.  Ingo Swan, who essentially was the one who developed the “remote-viewing” techniques, used the cult of Scientology methodologies that he’d obtained from high-level Scientology documents that, at the time, were well-protected by the Guardian Office.  At the point of these raids, these scientologists had already begun training CIA personnel in using these “methodologies,” or auditing procedures, which some have described as a form of hypnosis, or brain-washing.

The CIA allowed these three Scientologists to spread this belief system created by the cult of Scientology, and allowed them to infect other personnel within the agency with this doctrine and these practices.  These personnel in turn, as well as Swann himself, spread these techniques to other agencies as well as the military, such as the research and operations conducted at INSCOM, Fort Meade.  A religion was born…except our government could legally practice it.  At the point of these raids, the IRS had conveniently official removed its tax-exempt status.  This meant that as far as the U.S. Federal Government was concerned, Scientology was not a “religion.”  This removed the government from its obligations to respect and maintain a “hands-off” approach regarding religious beliefs.  With the cult of Scientology no longer officially classified as a religion, the government was free to do as it wanted, and it proceeded to treat the organization as an Intelligence threat.  Its secrets, once finally obtained from the GO raid, could be utilized in the “best interests” of the United States.  If the claimed abilities allegedly generated by auditing procedures were shown to be effective – the government would have yet another weapon in its massive military-industrial arsenal.

Little did the CIA know that they had just allowed an infectious virus into their inner sactum.

The Spread of the Remote Viewing/Auditing Viral Meme

Many of those running the anti-Scientology intelligence campaign, as of the early to mid 70’s, may not have realized the kind of organization they were dealing with.  And they may not have realized the inherent danger of the highest-level “technologies” which they were only just beginning to dabble with.  Viral memes, and the susceptibility of the human mind to the power of suggestion and hypnotic techniques, would prove to be catastrophic to those who were exposed to this training.

JanetIn a fascinating article by Janet Reitman in Rolling Stone magazine titled Inside Scientology – Unlocking the complex code of America’s most mysterious religion, she writes:

“Scientologists, much like Mormons or Christian evangelicals, consider themselves to be on a mission. They frequently speak of ‘helping people,’ and this mission is stressed in a number of church testaments. ‘Scientologists see themselves as possessors of doctrines and skills that can save the world, if not the galaxy,’ says Stephen Kent, a professor of sociology at the University of Alberta, in Canada, who has extensively studied the group.”

She quotes Hubbard himself as describing the cult of Scientology as follows:

“‘We’re not playing some minor game in Scientology,’ Hubbard wrote in a policy paper titled ‘Keeping Scientology Working,’ which is required reading for every member. ‘The whole agonized future of this planet, every man, woman and child on it, and your own destiny for the next endless trillions of years depend on what you do here and now with and in Scientology. This is a deadly serious activity.'”

She describes OT’s (Operating Thetans):

“OTs are Scientology’s elite — enlightened beings who are said to have total ‘control’ over themselves and their environment. OTs can allegedly move inanimate objects with their minds, leave their bodies at will and telepathically communicate with, and control the behavior of, both animals and human beings. At the highest levels, they are allegedly liberated from the physical universe, to the point where they can psychically control what Scientologists call MEST: Matter, Energy, Space and Time.”

OTIII is described by Janet as reaching the “Wall of Fire”:

“The most important, and highly anticipated, of the eight ‘OT levels’ is OT III, also known as the Wall of Fire. It is here that Scientologists are told the secrets of the universe, and, some believe, the creation story behind the entire religion. It is knowledge so dangerous, they are told, any Scientologist learning this material before he is ready could die. When I ask Mike Rinder about this, he casts the warning in less-dire terms, explaining that, before he reached OT III — he is now OT V — he was told that looking at the material early was ‘spiritually not good for you.’ But Hubbard, who told followers that he discovered these secrets while on a trip to North Africa in 1967, was more dramatic. ‘Somehow or other I brought it off, and obtained the material and was able to live through it,’ he wrote. ‘I am very sure that I was the first one that ever did live through any attempt to attain that material.’ Scientologists must be ‘invited’ to do OT III. Beforehand, they are put through an intensive auditing process to verify that they are ready. They sign a waiver promising never to reveal the secrets of OT III, nor to hold Scientology responsible for any trauma or damage one might endure at this stage of auditing. Finally, they are given a manila folder, which they must read in a private, locked room.”

A Story That Can Make You Sick

RinderImagine – a story so terribly dangerous to an unprepared human mind, that it could actually make a person who was previously mentally healthy, very sick.  A poisonous viral meme, if you will.  A story that could make a previously healthy person very sick, sick, sick.  Sound familiar?

The story described above, published by a former member in 1995, shows a darker side to the cult of Scientology, both anti-Christian and anti-God, disavowing organized religion entirely – and replacing it with a cosmological belief system based on an alien story.  Auditing, essentially, is a brainwashing technique to gradually strip away any previous religious beliefs or inclinations to logically and critically think about ideas and new concepts.  It’s a method to remove resistance to illogical new ideas, building up to the point when the final revelation of the true nature of Scientology is revealed.  At this point, OTIII, the Scientologist’s mind is so emptied and robotic, and so “clear” that this story fills the void and becomes “truth”.

When Janet asks Scientology leader Mike Rinder, the fifty-year-old director of the Church of Scientology International’s legal and public-relations wing known as the Office of Special Affairs, about these kinds of science fiction stories at the heart of Scientology – he responds heatedly: “I’m not explaining it to you, and I could not explain it to you,” says Rinder heatedly. “You don’t have a hope of understanding it.”

It must be very complicated.  Sort of like the “New Physics” we heard about during the Project Serpo fiasco.  Scientology is known among its members as the “New Science” after all.



Filed under: Remote Viewing,Serpo — Tags: , , , — RyanDube @ 6:56 am




January 24, 2009

The U.S. Government’s Remote Viewing Cult


RV Founders

Like many other belief systems that are born from any pseudo-scientific examination of paranormal concepts, the government’s analysis of the psychic phenomenon eventually resulted in a whole community of believers within the government’s scientific community.

In 1979, when the DIA took over funding and tasking of remote viewing research, interest within intelligence and scientific circles was spreading rapidly.  While the majority of folks who were in charge of funding and tasking of this specific government experimental research were believers, there was also a contingent of scientists who were not quite as enthusiastic about the subject matter under analysis.  As Kenneth Kress pointed out in his analysis, many government insiders felt that SRI’s procedures and experimental controls were quite unscientific.  By 1980, project “GRILL FLAME” was the collective code for all ongoing projects under the collective oversight of the DIA.  SRI alone was estimated to run close to $1 million annually (Schnabel). (This is valued at $2.9 million in 2006)

Headquarters for GRILL FLAME were Fort Meade, Maryland.  This was the location where the NSA and the Army’s INSCOM conducted a majority of the RV research.  In 1979, very few individuals knew of the existence of the government’s RV program.  According to a particular Army memo: “Access is limited to those personnel approved on a ‘by name’ basis.”  It was at this point when most of the military folks began undergoing Swann’s “training” procedures, which were mostly based upon the principles of Scientology’s “auditing” procedures.

Listed here are the individuals who were influenced either directly or indirectly from their interactions with SRI labs, remote viewing research, and/or the established “training/auditing” procedures that were involved.  In almost all cases, you can see how this period of “research” in the government’s history resulted in the formation of a cult, of sorts.  Today, you can find most of these individuals still actively supporting a set of beliefs that’s based more on faith than on science.

Members of the U.S. Government Remote Viewing Cult of the 1970’s

The following comes from “Doc Hambone’s” research found here.

Skip Atwater – From 1978 to 1988, Skip Atwater was the Operations and Training Officer for U.S. Army Intel remote viewing surveillance program.  He worked closely with the SRI RV program and trained intelligence personnel to remote view.  After retiring in 1988, became Research Director at The Monroe Institute – he has published technical research on methods for expanding consciousness.

Lyn BuchananLyn Buchanan – Remote Viewer with INSCOM/DIA at Fort Meade from 1984-1992.

Ed Dames – INSCOM/DIA remote viewing program at Fort Meade.  Claims to have been trained, along with five others, by Ingo Swann in 1983.  Conducted RV operations from 1983/84-1987/88.

Werner Erhard – Former Scientologist who in the mid-70’s financed Jack Sarfatti and the Physics/Consciousness Research Group.  Also gave funds to the SRI remote viewing project.

Keith Harary – long time subject in the SRI remote-viewing study, starting in late 1979/early 1980.

Edwin May – Joined SRI remote viewing program in 1976.  Became the head of the program after Hal Puthoff left in 1985.

Joseph McMoneagle – Military remote viewer with INSCOM/DIA at Fort Meade from 1978-84.  Worked as a consultant to SRI and SAIC.  In 1978, met Hal Puthoff and colleagues at SRI and became involved with their experiments in remote viewing.

David Morehouse – Military remote viewer with the INSCOM/DIA program.  Served from 1988-90 at Ft. Meade during SUN STREAK.

Sen. Clairborne Pell – Along with Charlie Rose, one of Washington’s biggest supporters of psychic research.  In 1988 he introduced a bill to get government funding for the new age group the National Committee on Human Resources (Al Gore was a co-sponsor).  On the advisory board of the International Association of Near-Death Studies, and on the board of the Institute of Noetic Sciences and the Human Potential Foundation.

Michael Persinger – Conducted research on “neuron-impacts” of various EMFs and ELFs.  Previously funded by Navy, is/was friend of C.B. Jones and other government signal propagation experts, and did research on the effects of electromagnetic radiation on the brain for a Pentagon weapons project.  Former Boss – Jack Verona.  Informal advisor to SRI’s remote viewing program.

Pat Price – After participating in an early SCANATE experiment, Price joined the remote viewing program at SRI.  Price died in 1975 (under questionable circumstances).  1974 – left SRI and allegedly worked for the CIA with Ken Kress as his handler. (Schnabel)  Rumors have circulated that Price had been murdered by the KGB, or that he faked his death and continued to work for the CIA.

puthoffHarold “Hal” Puthoff – During the 60’s, served as an officer in the Navy at the NSA at Fort Meade, Maryland.  Worked for 8 years in the Microwave Lab at Stanford University.  Joined SRI in 1971 as a specialist in laser physics.  Headed the SRI remote viewing program from 1972-1985.  Since 1985 has been the Director of the Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin, initially working for Bill Church full time working on alternative fuel sources and zero-point energy. According to Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird, in The Secret Life of Plants, while at SRI, Puthoff did experiments with chicken eggs.  Using a Scientology e-meter, he attempted to see if an egg would react if another was broken nearby.   Also is President of Earthtech International at the same address as the IAS.  Puthoff worked with Robert Bigelow and NIDS.

Dean Radin – Took a leave of absence from Bell Labs in 1985, and spent the entire year at SRI International, working with Hal Puthoff and Ed May.  Since then, his academic research has been exclusively on psi phenomena, and industrial research at least 20% psi.  As of 1996, was working with Joe McMoneagle in a project remote-viewing future technology.  Once funded by the Bigelow Foundation.  Prior to becoming President of the Boundary Institute, he was in charge of a psi research program at Interval Research Corp in Palo Alto, California.  Dean Radin earned a BSEE in EE, with honors, from Univ. of Mass, and an MS in EE and PhD in Educational Psychology, both from Univ. of Ill.  For 10 years was a member of technical staff at AT&T Bell Labs and later a principle member of the tech staff at GTE Labs, where he was engaged in R&D on a wide variety of advanced telecommunications products and systems.

Mel Riley – Military remote-viewer at Ft. Meade, 1978-1990.  RV session with Riley monitored by Ed Dames was shown in “Psi-Files: The Real X-files”, written and narrated by Jim Schnabel.  Riley left the Army in 1991, and lives in Wisconsin, where he is considered to be an expert in American Indian culture.

Charlie Rose – Congressional Democrat from NC, and one of the bigger supporters of the government remote viewing program.  Friends with Ingo Swann and Jack Verona.

Stephan Schwartz – Former Navy officer and psychic researcher.  Schwartz helped procure a submarine for a July 1977 experiment with SRI.  These experiments included some on behalf of Dale Graff of the Air Force.  A Research associate with the Cognitive Sciences Laboratory.

Paul Smith : Joined the operational remote viewing unit at Ft. Meade from 1983 to 1990.  Personally trained by Ingo Swann at SRI-International.  He was the primary author of the government RV program’s CRV training manual, and served as theory instructor for new CRV trainee personnel, as well as recruiting assessment officer and unit security officer.  Prior to this, he was with an INSCOM operations unit in Germany.

albert stubblebineGeneral Albert Stubblebine:  Former head of U.S. Army Intelligence & Security Command (INSCOM) 1981 – 1984.  Signed classified contracts with the Monroe Institute.  Former box with Col. John Alexander, and the two have held numerous “spoon-bending” parties.  Married to ufologist Rima Laibow.  Soon after becoming head of INSCOM, Stubblebine began a program called the “High Performance Task Force”, a series of methods to improve his officer’s performance.  These ranged from the neruo-linquistic programming of Tony Robbins to the hemisynch tapes of the Monroe Institute, where Stubblebine often sent his officers.  Following an incident involving an officer having a psychotic episode at the Monroe Institute, Stubblebine resigned in 1984.

Ingo Swann – Swann helped establish Scientology’s “Celebrity Center” in Los Angeles.  According to Peter Tomkins and Chirstopher Bird, Swann “attributes his success to techniques he learned in Scientology”.   Swann and Puthoff attended the First International Congress on Psychotronic Research in Prague, Czechoslovakia.  “Ingo was there to present a paper on the Scientology paradigm as model for developing and exploring paranormal abilities.” (Targ, Russell and Puthoff, Harold E, pg 42)  He is/was friends with Rep. Charlie Rose.  He left the program in 1988.

Russell Targ – “Russell Targ is a senior research physicist at Stanford Research Institute, having joined their electronics and bioengineering laboratory in 1972. Prior to that, he spent 10 years in laser and plasma physics research with Sylvania Corporation, developing gas lasers…He is also president of the Parapsychology Research Group, Inc., in Palo Alto, California.” (Mitchell, Edgar, Psychic Exploration, G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1974, pg 522-3).  In 1982, Targ left SRI and founded Delphi Associates with Keith Harary. Delphi Associates was a consultancy which sought to apply psi to finding oil, gas, etc. Using Harary as a viewer, they claimed to have successfully traded in the silver market. (Targ and Harary, pg 176)
In Spring, 1982, Targ turned in a research report to his DIA contract manager at SRI, Jim Salyer. Salyer and the DIA considered his work to be unprofessional, and they soon refused to pay his salary.  Under SRI rules, Targ had eight months to find new funding. In early 1983, he left SRI, reportedly claiming that he left because he didn’t like the military applications of psychic research. (Schnabel, Jim, Remote Viewers: The Secret History of America’s Psychic Spies, Dell, 1997, pg 264)

Charles Tart – Around 1979, SRI funded a project of Tart’s which screened university students and faculty for psychic ability.  Currently teaching (as of 1997) at Univ of Las Vegas as part of Robert Bigelow’s Bigelow Chair of Consciousness Studies.

Ed Thompson – Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence (ACSI), US Army, 1977-81. During this time, he was briefed by SRI on the remote viewing program. After having tried it himself, viewing a Masonic temple near the target train station, Thompson set up Project Grill Flame at Fort Meade.  Thompson left the Army in 1985.

Jack Vorona – Former head of DIA’s Scientific and Technical Intelligence Directorate.  Oversaw the funding and tasking of Grill Flame.  Oversaw “Sleeping Beauty” – which dealt with researching microwaves and how they effect the human mind. (Schnabel).  Friends with Rep Charlie Rose.  Retired late 1989.

Dr. Jolly West – West was a veteran of CIA’s MKULTRA, and worked on interrogation techniques using hypnosis and LSD.  West allegedly once killed an elephant by grossly overestimating a dose of LSD.  According to an anonymous BBC television reporter, West headed up the medical oversight for the Ft. Meade remote-viewing operational unit. (Alex Constantine).  According to Schnabel, he was a member of the medical oversight board for Science Applications International Corp (SAIC) remote-viewing research in the early 1990s.



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January 21, 2009

Bruce Maccabee Interviews Ernie “Hawk” Kellerstrass


2007 Mufon Symposium According to the publication, "An Estimate of the Situation: The Extraterrestrial Hypothesis," presented at the 2007 MUFON International UFO Symposium, allegedly an AF Colonel (possibly former) and Rick Doty contacted Moore initially in September of 1980.  Taking this date into consideration, it’s important to dig further back into the ongoing activities of these individuals prior to 1980, before they started interfacing more often with UFO researchers.  The important clues in tracing back the activities of Rick Doty and any other individuals involved in the MJ12 scam include following where same philosophy might have showed up prior to making its appearance in the materials passed to Pratt, Moore, Howe, and so many other researchers after 1979/1980.

2005 – Bruce Maccabee Releases Hawk Tales

Hawk Tales , a 2005 article written by Bruce Maccabee, was described by Bruce himself as a "supplement" to Robert Collins’ 2005 book Exempt from Disclosure .   This background document was largely forgotten during the aftermath of Exempt from Disclosure and much of the Serpo-related drama that followed.  However, this intriguing document written by Bruce Maccabee provides a great deal of hidden treasures.  In it, Maccabbee writes:

“This article presents a book’s worth of information that was left out of the book , information that provides a historical foundation for Collins’ investigation.”

You can often learn more about the items that are left out , than you do from the items found within.

Not only does Maccabee’s Hawk Tales provide a historical foundation – it also shares a great deal of information concerning Collins (and Doty’s) sources.  This article includes references to names and events that took place at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in 1979 and earlier.  Keeping in mind the identities of Moore’s sources of the bogus Aquarius and MJ-12 information (Rick Doty and other individuals who present themselves as "Air Force"), in Maccabbee’s writeup we learn a little more information about those sources, and what went on in the years just before Moore  and other UFO researchers were contacted and fed regurgitated UFO stories and information.

In the introduction, Maccabee writes:

“One of the main sources of information was a Lt. Col. Of the Air Force, herein referred to by his ‘aviary’ code name, ‘Hawk’ (as explained in the book, pg 8).  Hawk retired from the Foreign Technology division (FTD) at Wright Patterson Air Force Base (WPAFB) in 1979, about 4 years before Collins started working there.  Collins learned about Hawk’s interest in the UFO subject from a mutual acquaintance .  Subsequently, Hawk provided valuable information to Collins’ research activities in the latter half of the 1980’s."

Hawk, as most researchers who are familiar with the famed Aviary as defined by Moore now know, is Ernie Kellerstrass. In the article, Macabbee describes some of the information Kellerstrass shared with him in this interview held in 1985 and 1986.  As Maccabee points out in his introduction, this information Kellerstrauss was sharing with him in this interview was only 5 years after the publication of Moore and Berlitz’s book The Roswell Incident .  Even more significantly, it was also a year before the alleged “MJ-12” documents and information would be released to the general public .  Bruce Maccabee had little idea, at the time of these interviews, that a group of “insiders” were also talking to Moore, Pratt, Shandara, Howe, and others about the same exact ideas and during the same time period.  It appears that by 1985, those responsible for spreading those documents were finally out in full force and interfacing with a whole list of Ufologists in an effort to get the "core story" out into the UFO arena.

However, Macabbee’s document in particular, when placed within the context of other events that were taking place at the Foreign Technology Division at Wright AFB during this same exact time period mentioned in the document (1975 through 1979) – reveal striking parallels and lead amazingly close to a revelation regarding the source of this disinformation (MJ12), and possibly the motive.

The Maccabee – Kellerstrass Interview in 1985

The article continues on with a transcript of the conversation Maccabee had with Kellerstrass in 1985.  The conversation goes over a multitude of events and names of sources from many years before this 1985 interview, mostly from the 70’s – and those are the critical points that we want to focus on in order to try to identify where the “core story”, or MJ12 philosophy, first started making an appearance.

I will highlight the critical parts of the series of Maccabee/Kellerstrass conversation here:

Bruce Maccabee In the first part of the interview, Kellerstrass describes his only two eye-witness accounts of UFO’s.  One was witnessing some models of experimental aircraft at Wright AFB that matched stereotypical descriptions of UFO’s (cigar and saucer), as well as witnessing an event where a jet that had been scrambled to intercept a UFO over Japan got shot down.  Other than those two “eye-witness” events – he admits that everything else he "knows" about Aliens and UFO’s were told to him through 1st and/or 2nd hand accounts.

By the third conversation – Kellerstrauss provides the name of one of his central sources, who turns out to be none other than “this one fellow in 1978” – Dale Graff .  The comical part of this interview is that Kellerstrass assumes that Dale Graff didn’t know that Ernie’s "other source" was also in touch with him (Ernie).  He is completely oblivious to the possibility that Graff and the other source could actually not be “independent from the other” at all.  Ernie claims that the matching information from two sources proves it’s true…overlooking the possibility that matching information from two sources could indicate collaboration.

Interview Excerpts:

H – Ernie Kellerstrass, B – Bruce Maccabee

“December 19, 1985

H:    Everything I have relayed (regarding Bob) is from that one visit, what, 1963 or 4, sometime in there.
B:    Yeah, you said 1964.
H:    Yeah, when I was there in ’64. So all I do is relate that plus things that were confirmed by this one fellow (Dale Graff) in 1978 .  So my information is only until 1978 or early ’79, that time frame.  And what it was is that in ’78-79 the conversations were with somebody (Dale) completely independent from the other (Bob. H)…(DG) who did not know that I knew the other information (from Bob.H. ).”

A little further down in the conversation, Graff gets mentioned again, and this time Maccabee, hearing the name for the first time, asks for more specific information about him.

Interestingly, Kellerstrass attempts to brush off the name as “Just a fellow who was in the office.” However, it becomes quite apparent before long that Dale Graff is actually a central source of most of the more sensational parts of the story.  In particular, the parts that we now recognize today (in 2009) as making up much of the core of what exists in the MJ12 documents, and serves as a central philosophy of the documents – as well as the central philosophy for almost all related releases that would eventually come from Rick Doty and his group down the road – including Project Serpo in 2005.

“B:    Oh.  So he probably didn’t need any clearance to tour the FAA facility.
H:    Right,  He didn’t do the other part.  But he took the tour.  It was all planned back then.   Although Dale Graff told me in the spring of ’79 that everything was as I had said.  He told me (what he knew), and then later on I told him what I knew, and he said, “Yes, it’s still there.”
B:    Hmmmm.   And, uh, who is that?
H:    Just a fellow who was in the office.  He’s super, super, super sensitive, but he’s the guy….
B:    A guy who was in the office where you worked?
H:    Yeah, where I worked.  He’s the guy that… We were talking one day and he said “You should have read the book. Then you’d get some really interesting information.”
B:    Oh, yeah.  OK.
disclosure-alien H:    And then he told me about this book (a reference to the “Yellow Book”?).  He said there were about 40 copies but they were all controlled.  I asked if it was possible to see the book and he said “No, it was just sent back six months ago.”
B:    That was in ’79?
H:    That was early ’79.  So that means the book was sent back sometime in ’78, like either 3 or 6 months before.  So, does that match in with the other book?  (I think this is a reference to the Project Aquarius report.)
B:    We don’t really know the….
H:    …..the publication date?
B:    No, we don’t know that.
H:    Well, he (Graff?) told me the publication was either ’76 or ’77.
B:    Oh, yeah.  Right.  That would agree..
H:    It was what he told me at the time.  Anyway, thing that is interesting is that he told me the name of the people, the race, where they were from and a whole bunch of other little things.  And when RC was talking the other day about a report he had, and he didn’t tell me much about it because told him I didn’t want to know, uh, it turned out that ¾ of what he said was the same .  And the other guy (Dale Graff, referred to herein as DG) said he had read the book.  He said it was about a 100 page book.  In fact, he said it was over that.  He said it was about…let me get back my memory…he said it was a couple if inches thick, hard bound.  Now the thing that is interesting is that he said Dr. Cacciopo (referred to herein as Dr. C ) got the book.  It was sent to him.
B:    Who is that?
H:    He’s the Chief Scientist.  (Dr. Anthony Cacciopo, at that time Chief Scientist at FTD, herein called “C”.)”
B:    Uh, huh!   (Note:  Collins knew Dr. C but had not yet approached him on this subject.)
H:    And, when I talked about the committee meeting, or what have you, (i.e., the committee in charge of UFO/AFC research mentioned above as meeting in a lodge at the northern edge of Albuquerque near the tramway; MJ-12?),  he (DG) said he had accompanied him (Dr. C) out there to these meetings.
B:    This guy you are talking about DG had accompanied Dr. C….?
H:    Dr. C.  And he said Dr. C had attended these meetings.  So what that tells me is, I suspect that Dr. C is a member or a chief advisor to the committee.  Because that is the only way DG knew all of that information that matched with what I had known. "

The next segment of the conversation outlines more of the details which we’ve finally come to recognize.  But the important part of this statement is that the information was coming from Dale Graff in 1979 – around the same time Doty was starting to build up his own activity within Ufology (upcoming reports will detail that activity), as well as the year (1979) when Bruce Maccabee started interfacing with CIA (Kit Green), and it was also the year Bruce noticed that there was an "intersection" between the parapsychology research and Ufology.

The interview as published in Hawk Tales is quite long, but any researcher interested in the history of the MJ12 releases and the source of those documents should carefully read through this interview.  The discussions are too long to outline here, but the following important points were raised in the remainder of the interview.  According to Ernie Kellerstrass:

  • Dr. Dr. Anthony Cacciopo allegedly let Dale Graff read "the book" in 1978, and Dale told Ernie in 1979 what was in the book.
  • The Air Force had 5 (types of) aliens, and "some live ones," and were hiding one
  • Provided early history from 10,000 years ago up to the time of Christ
  • The planet they came from had a double sun
  • Dale Graff and Dr. Cacciopo went to Davis-Monthan AFB to a "major meeting on UFOs"
  • An "OSI fellow" took Dale and two other Army folks Southwest of the AFB to a vault where they "had ’em (aliens) in pictures and they had ’em in tanks"
  • The U.S. had bodies or parts of bodies of three of the five types of aliens
  • An "Arizona group" consisting of 3 males, 2 females (captured in Utah) were originally alive
  • Alien bodies had no nose, round mouth, no ears, no hair, elliptical eyes, and looked like stereotypical alien
  • They (aliens) were vegetarians (based on food found in a tray in the craft)
  • Everyone called the aliens EBE1, EBE2, etc…

Dale Graff

Allegedly Dale Graff described "the book" to Ernie as being about two inches thick, with just under 40 copies available, brown in color and "coded."  Ernie continues to describe his conversations with Dale Graff during the late 1970’s as follows:

"Every once in a while we’d talk at the end of the day and he used to like to talk about the whole paranormal field and all the exotics.  I won’t elaborate but we use to talk for hours on end;  Out of body experiences and all that sort of thing, and he knows that I’ve had some of those experiences ever since I was little and tiny.  So, he used to feel real comfortable talking with me.  And every once in a while he would bring out these oddities related to UFOs.  And he brought out both of those incidents (B52 and trip to Arizona base).  He didn’t elaborate much on them other than that they occurred and the essence of them."

The above interview, if we are to assume that Kellerstrass is passing on an honest version of stories that he was allegedly told, reveals that Dale Graff, as early as 1978, was privately discussing the same exact themes and ideas (the “Philosophy”) that would eventually make its way into the early 80’s versions of the MJ-12 documents, and eventually, Project Serpo.  In 1978, we have Dale Graff discussing:

(1)    A secret book containing information about “EBE”, multiple alien races
(2)    Early history from 10,000 years ago to the time of Christ
(3)    Captured Alien Craft and Bodies/Prisoners
(4)    Aliens as vegetarians
(5)    Their star-system having a double-star, or double-sun.

Other than discussing Aliens with Kellerstraus back in 1978, as outlined in our last article , Dale Graff was acting as a civilian physicist with the Air Force FTD division, and had given a small contract to the SRI research team in order to test the Soviet hypothesis that psi was transmitted via ELF (extremely low frequency) electromagnetic waves.

As outlined in our previous articles, 1978-1979 was clearly a very important year in Remote Viewing research for many reasons.  Additional events of note that took place within this time frame included:

  • DIA took over funding and tasking for the government’s overall RV research.
  • Kit Green began communicating with Maccabee for as much UFO information as possible.
  • Maccabee recognizes this date as signifying the sudden interested of the “RV” folks in the field of ufology.
  • Dale Graff, scientist with Air Force FTD RV program, has been working closely with SRI (Hal Puthoff) on a secret  RV project since 1975.
  • Dale Graff and Dr. Anthony Cacciopo were both involved in the AF Blue Book investigations that took place at Wright AFB.

All of the information listed above, which was supposedly being discussed privately as early as 1978, examined within the context of everything else going on during the same time period, suggests a significant series of events and the beginning of a "movement," which would eventually involve a number of prominent UFO researchers, and turn into one of the longest-running and most significant UFO hoaxes of all time.







January 19, 2009

Are Scientists in Government Immune to Weird Science?


Tarot CardsHow does the United States define the direction of government science?  How do secret government scientist’s physics and metaphysics leanings and biases factor into government funding for various avenues of funding and research?  Why are scientists sucked into strange scientific theories and avenues of research? These are important questions for citizens of the United States.  Since the terrorist attacks of 2001, classified government funding for programs controlled by the Pentagon has increased by an amazing 48%, to over $27 billion.   These funds are shielded from public oversight because of its status as secret government clandestine research.   This means that the government could be researching some of the most controversial and disturbing scientific concepts of our time, and you have absolutely no say in the matter.  It’s for the good of “National Security,” or so they say.

A Case Study – The U.S. Remote Viewing Program

A prime example of how secret government science research is handled and funded is the Remote Viewing and parapsychology research conducted by Intelligence and Military branches of the government.  For the most part, this research was initially examined by the CIA in the early 1970’s.  After a preliminary study, and after contracting research related to that study to SRI (directed by Hal Puthoff and Russ Targ), Kenneth Kress wrote a final report in 1977 titled, “Parapsychology in Intelligence: A Personal Review and Conclusions.”  Although rumors have circulated through the years within various books and websites regarding the alleged early “successes” of SRI’s remote viewing research, Kenneth Kress’ analysis offers us a unique insight into the dilemma many secret government scientists were facing at the time.  Faced with claims of successful remote viewing sessions, yet also faced with the same number of blatant failed tests – scientists within the government were split.  There were believers and there were skeptics, and the rest are scientists who were everywhere in between.  Ken Kress describes the transition in 1977 when the CIA dropped interest, but other military agencies picked it up – entertaining SRI’s proposals for funding and further research.

From CIA to DoD / Air Force

How are scientists within the government monitored?  According to Ken Kress’ report, the “Human Resources Subcommittee on R&D” exhaustively reviewed the existing CIA and DoD parapsychology research in 1977 and still found the results inconclusive.  Kress reported that the CIA continued receiving “several proposals from SRI and other contractors,” but the CIA did not accept any further proposals for this area of government science.  In 1977, there were no further plans by the CIA to fund further parapsychology research.

However, it is interesting to observe how “believers” within other agencies helped to promote the spending of secret government funds into parapsychology.  According to Kress, the DIA became interested in 1973, due to reports regarding similar Soviet research (some of these reports came from folks like Russ Targ and other potential contractors).  According to Kress’ report, in 1977 the DIA “remains interested on a low priority basis.”  Kress also reported that the Army expressed interest in parapsychology related to experiences they had with some of their platoon point men in Vietnam.  However, by 1977 that interest had also faded off.  Kress reports, “After a few more follow-up meetings, the Army Materiel Command was never heard from again.”  DARPA are scientists who were not only uninterested, but Kress describes them as being “hostile” toward parapsychology research.

By 1977, the Navy expressed interest, and even funded SRI to conduct several controlled government science experiments.  This could be a reference to the reported story where Ingo allegedly RV’d a UFO near a submarine.  Regardless, other more skeptical Navy researchers found the Navy’s interest in “mind warfare” avenues of research as disturbing and inappropriate, and ultimately Navy funding ended as well.

According to Kress’ report, in 1977, “active funding for parapsychology now has shifted to the Air Force’s Foreign Technology Division.”  According to Kress, in 1977 a second phase of research was already funded by the Air Force in order to evaluate the transmission of signals or communications by psychic means.  Kress reports that in 1977, the Air Force results were “more consistent than those sean during the CIA research, but still they are mixed.”  Kress also makes note of the overall rising public interest in parapsychology due throughout the general public, and sees the public revelations of the CIA’s interest as healthy because, “These publications will also stimulate other scientific investigations into parapsychology.”  In large part, Kress was refering to the publication of Mind Reach by Targ and Puthoff.

1975 – 1979 – Wright Patterson Air Force Base, Foreign Technology Division (FTD)

Wright PattersonAre scientists within the Air Force more gullible?  Since the release of many thousands of formerly classified documents outlining the government’s foray into paranormal research of the mind, few government science researchers have been quite as persistent and determined to reveal the details of those documents to the public as Gary Bekkum at Starstream Research.  According to FOIA documents, as reported by Gary Bekkum at his website:

“A summary of activity requested by Senate Appropriations Committee via Congressionally Directed Action states:

‘The U.S Air Force National Air Intelligence Center, formerly the Foreign Technology Division (FTD), initiated its program by asking whether the phenomena existed and whether it could be used to collect intelligence … [redacted service or agency] research effort focused on the use of RV [remote viewing] to collect intelligence data …’”

According to Dale Graff’s book Tracks in the Psychic Wilderness: An Exploration of Remote Viewing, ESP, Precognitive Dreaming, and Synchronicity – in 1975, Dale Graff was an applied aerospace engineer and physicist with the Air Force’s Foreign Technology Division at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton.  His primary work was monitoring the latest research into the various applications of sensor devices.  In the course of this work with the Air Force, he reviewed alleged Soviet research into this area, and recommended that the Air Force should looking further into the phenomenon and its future potential.

Subsequently, the Air Force tasked Dale Graff with looking into remote viewing research being conducted by Harold Puthoff and Russell Targ at Stanford Research Institute.  Graff was asked to look into their research and its possible applications of interest to the military.  Graff’s report was positive, and SRI remote viewing became secretly funded by the Department of Defense.

The years from 1975 to 1979 fall within the time period when the research was driven and funded mostly by the DoD, and as Kress pointed out, primarily by the Air Force during this time.  Only after 1979/1980 did tasking and funding of government psychic research and applications transfer to the DIA.  Dale is the one who created the name Stargate for the this approach, and he was also the primary director of the research after it transferred over the DIA.  Even after research tasking was transferred to DIA, and Graff went with it, Hal Puthoff and SRI continued to play an active role as a contractor for that research.

Oddly – most of the Air Force research between 1975 to 1979 was left out of the Stargate files, because it fell under DoD files which were not subject to the release.  Only DIA research files were released.

At his web site, Paul Smith writes:

Paul Smith“While I have focused mostly on what is here in the Star Gate documents, I found what isn’t here also to be interesting. What seems not to be here is any documentation from the Air Force program run by Dale Graff in the Foreign Technology Division at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, beginning in 1975. That program went on for several years and achieved a number of important things. In fact, Graff and his program were directly responsible for keeping the SRI-International remote viewing research effort going after the CIA abandoned it the first time. But there is nothing to show for it, at least as far as I’ve been able to discover. There is also little in evidence from Graff’s and Dr. Jack Vorona’s offices at the Defense Intelligence Agency’s main facility in Washington, D.C.”

In fact, according to Paul Smith’s chronology, in 1975 the Air Force FTD became the “primary funder” of the SRI research program, with Dale Graff supervising.  This marked the beginning of when the majority of Hal’s funding would switch from the CIA to the military.  Prior to this, he’d only been able to obtain about $10,000 from his friend and private sponsor Bill Church (of Church’s Chicken).  But 1975 marked the beginning of what would stretch out into a $20 million dollar research program (the equivalent of just over $70 million dollars in 2007).

Examples of Air Force FTD Psychic Research in Literature

The government science research conducted at Air Force FTD was certainly extensive, according to the accounts that we could find.

One example was in 1977, when Dale Graff gave a small contract to the SRI research team to test the Soviet hypothesis that PSI was transmitted via ELF (extremely low frequency) electromagnetic waves.  Stephan Schwartz (former Navy officer and psychic researcher) procured a submarine for the SRI experiments (Schnabel, Psychic Spies, pg 207).  Another example was in March of 1979, when allegedly remote viewers working with Dale Graff at WPAFB and with SRI correctly located downed Soviet TU-22 reconnaissance aircraft.

According to to the 2002 “RV History” chronology printed by Paul Smith in Aperture, in 1980, the Air Force Chief of Staff cancelled the Air Force RV program, and Dale Graff then joined the DIA’s RV effort as “principle staff officer”.

Read this article for more information about who was responsible for sparking the DIA scientists’ interest in SRI psychic research.



Filed under: CIA,Remote Viewing — Tags: , , , , — RyanDube @ 8:57 pm




January 10, 2009

Ingo Swann Remote Views a UFO


Ingo SwannIn the interview quoted in this article, Bruce Maccabee is quoted as follows:

“These guys who didn’t believe in UFOs, but did believe strongly in metal bending, psychokinesis, remote viewing and all that mind research, were suddenly confronted with the UFO problem right in their face. [snip] ….When I talked with Kit Green in 1979, he was aware of all this, too, but he wouldn’t tell me anything.  He would only suck up information from me regarding the UFO aspect.  But there was this intersection point where psychics started zeroing in on UFOs and the people in the paranormal side were saying, ‘This can’t be. UFO’s aren’t real.’  So they had to start investigating what was going on in the UFO community.”

This quote begs the question, what was Bruce referring to about UFOs?  Later in the interview he mentions how Ingo Swann remote viewed a UFO behind a submarine.

In Ingo’s Own Words

On his website, www.biomindsuperpowers.com, Ingo Swann discussed that incident, which allegedly occurred between 1975 and 1976 when he was asked to remote view Soviet submarines.  Apparently this was an important test related to continued funding of SRI.

“This was one of those ‘big test’ things that went on with witnesses,” he wrote. “The room was filled with top brass.  I said, ‘Hal, I don’t know what to do.  I think this submarine has shot down by a UFO or the UFO fired on her.  What shall I do?’

And Puthoff went pale.  He looked at me and whispered, ‘I don’t know, it’s your show.  You do what you should do.’  So I sketched a picture of a UFO, and this two or three-star general sitting on my right grabbed it and said, ‘What’s that, Mr. Swann?’ I said ‘Sir, I think it’s rather obvious what that is.’

And he took the paper and stood up, and when he stood up, everyone else left.  So Puthoff and I went back to the hotel and I said, ‘Oh, Christ, we’ve blown the program.’

So we went out and got drunk.

Three days later, Puthoff got a call.

The caller said, ‘Okay, how much money do you want.’”

The Ingo Swann UFO Viewing From Another Source

While this account, from Ingo, is certainly intriguing – other accounts differ, and offer much less significance to the drawn UFO.  According to Lyn Buchanan, the session went more like this:

“One time, at one meeting, while Ingo Swan was tracking a submarine he just happened to mention that there was a UFO overhead.  Everyone around the table laughed, and Swan was told:

‘OK, well, track it for us to tell us what is doing’, and then they send the word out about it with request to have the radar readings.  They never got feedback on that.

The real purpose for that meeting was to see if they were going to get funded for another year.  Immediately after their request got out they got funded.”

As you can see here – the importance or significance of the UFO comments were mostly in the minds of the two guys who were trying to obtain funding (Puthoff and Swann).  There was no direct correlation between the continued funding and the fact that Ingo mentioned a UFO – however these two men drew that correlations based on very loose and circumstantial events.   What we can extract from all versions of the event was not that the U.S. Government attached importance or significance to the erroneous UFO drawing – but that the men running the Remote Viewing program certainly did.

By 1979, a key year where tasking and funding for Remote Viewing research was transitioned to the DIA and widened in scope – Kit Green also met with Maccabee in 1979, as discussed on the main RU website (RU article link), regarding the New Zealand sightings.  It’s clear that Kit and Hal likely were aware at this point of an odd correlation between remote viewing and UFOs.  Coincidentally, the following year, events in the world of UFOlogy, a field that had largely forgotten about Roswell, suddenly took an unexpected and wild turn.



Filed under: Remote Viewing,The Core Story — Tags: , , , , — RyanDube @ 4:05 pm






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