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Re: "The Weird Desk"?

Postby Gary » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:17 pm

Access Denied wrote:Gary, that's standard procedure for marking a classified Telex.


Were images of documents (facsimile) transmitted over secure Telex machines? How would they be marked given DoD5200 or earlier guidelines? The EBD appears to have gone through several markings over time.

(Do not interpret this question to suggest that my opinion is that the EBD is real.)

Btw here is a real executive level document:

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Re: "The Weird Desk"?

Postby Access Denied » Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:31 pm

Gary wrote:Were images of documents (facsimile) transmitted over secure Telex machines?

No, teletype machines are character based.

Gary wrote:How would they be marked given DoD5200 or earlier guidelines?

RTFM :)
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Re: "The Weird Desk"?

Postby Gary » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:27 pm

Find me a 1952 edition :-)
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Re: TOP SECRET -- MAJIC -- EYES ONLY

Postby Access Denied » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:02 am

Well, you can try this…

Air Force Regulation 205-1 (15 DEC 53)
http://www.cufon.org/cufon/afr205-1.htm

It’s in accordance with the provisions of E.O. 10501 issued by Eisenhower in 1953. Although dated after the alleged EBD, my understanding is the procedures for marking classified documents have remained relatively unchanged since World War II with the notable exception of the issuance of E.O. 10104 by Truman in 1950 which superseded E.O. 8381 issued by Roosevelt in 1940 and added a new classification designation of TOP SECRET to the existing three of Restricted, Confidential, and Secret…

HISTORY OF CLASSIFICATION AND DECLASSIFICATION
https://www.osti.gov/opennet/forms.jsp? ... story.html

Executive Orders

President Roosevelt signed the first, EO 8381, on March 22, 1940. This EO formalized and provided a basis for existing classification systems then being used by both the Army and Navy.

[…]

This EO was in effect throughout WWII. In September 1942, the Office of War Information issued a classification regulation which substantially expanded the type of data which could be classified.

[…]

Information developed during the Manhattan Project was classified under this EO. Interestingly, this EO provided for three classification levels, none of which was Top Secret. The established levels were Secret, Confidential, and Restricted.

he next EO was issued by President Truman on February 1, 1950. EO 10104 limited classification authority to the DoD. It essentially continued the policies of EO 8381 and added the classification level of Top Secret to the existing three levels of Secret, Confidential, and Restricted.

EO 10290, issued by President Truman on September 24, 1951, substantially broadened the classification system to include allowing non-military agencies to classify information. Thus, classification authority was granted to all Executive Agencies (to include such agencies as the Departments of Commerce, Agriculture, Interior, etc.). It was the first EO to recognize and define RD and exempt it from EO provisions.

[…]

Because classification authority was granted to so many agencies, both Congress and the press quickly attacked this EO as being overly broad.

[…]

On December 15, 1953, President Eisenhower's EO 10501 effectively replaced the second Truman EO. EO 10501 remained in effect essentially until 1972 and reduced the number of agencies which could classify data. The new EO eliminated the Restricted level leaving only Top Secret, Secret, and Confidential.

Careful observers will note that among other things, this debunks the so-called “Top Secret Estimate of the Situation” allegedly produced by Project SIGN in 1948 that allegedly supported the ETH as first claimed by (former) Capt. Ruppelt in his 1956 book The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimate_of_the_Situation

“It was a rather thick document with a black cover and it was printed on legal sized paper. Stamped across the front were the words TOP SECRET.”

Clearly there was no such classification in 1948 which would explain why the alleged document has never surfaced. It appears Ruppelt played the original Hynek/Pope “career move”. That people like Michael Swords, Timothy Good, Stanton Friedman and Richard Dolan among others continue to repeat this unsubstantiated claim without apparently having done even the most basic research to validate it is quite telling I think.

It’s infinitely more likely the following document is the one and only “Estimate of the Situation” and since it doesn’t support the ETH in concordance with every other official document ever discovered, it’s no wonder a conspiracy "theory" (later to include the mythological MJ-12) was created by ETH proponents to “fill in the blanks” with a separate “unacknowledged” investigation…

Air Intelligence Report 100-203-72, Analysis of Fly­ing Object Incidents in the U.S. (28 APR 49}
http://www.project1947.com/fig/1948air.htm
http://iufog.org/project1947/fig/1948air.htm (mirror)

Note that while this copy released through the FOIA is classified Top Secret, obviously this was done after 1950 as noted above and evidenced by the reference to AFR 205-1.

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