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Re: Collaborative thread for article #3.

Postby Gary » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:57 am

I have added a couple of SG docs for you:

1966 ESP memo

http://www.starstreamresearch.com/1966%20esp%20memo.JPG

Reference to CIA technical analysis of conversation with Uri Geller

http://www.starstreamresearch.com/Gelle ... alysis.JPG

Also found an interesting ROUTING SLIP, to quote:

11/5/74

" ... If we were to stay in this field I'd much prefer a personal service contract with a guy like [redacted] under which he would construct various hypotheses, design experiments to test them, and then (with a plausible funding mechanism) 'rent' a reputable and independent lab to run the experiments."
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Postby dazdude » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:01 pm

This doc shows in detail the transcripts and sketechs of the CIA virginia site - that kicked the CIA sponsorship into high gear. Its rare to actually See the INGO/PRICE sketches etc.

http://www.remoteviewed.com/files/swann ... 20site.pdf

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Postby Gary » Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:22 pm

There are interesting snippets of historical information in some of the routing slips in the STAR GATE archive.
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Postby MikeJamieson » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:19 pm

Thankyou Gary and Daz. I'm looking at all the material. There's some specific info related to the 1973-75 time period of the #3 article!

I'll add some sidebar notes/comments to the article. To include some of that info as well as some other things (like Kress's report on Price and the FBI raid on the Scientology outfit, revealing Price blabbing to his Scientology guys).

I didn't know that Swann's RVing of moon base was this early in the ballgame.
That's worthy of a sidebar note! (It's such a well known story.)
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Postby Gary » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:27 pm

MikeJamieson wrote:Thankyou Gary and Daz. I'm looking at all the material. There's some specific info related to the 1973-75 time period of the #3 article!

I'll add some sidebar notes/comments to the article. To include some of that info as well as some other things (like Kress's report on Price and the FBI raid on the Scientology outfit, revealing Price blabbing to his Scientology guys).

I didn't know that Swann's RVing of moon base was this early in the ballgame.
That's worthy of a sidebar note! (It's such a well known story.)


I also came across a note about Price having an enlarged ventricle from 1974.
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Declassified Stargate papers.

Postby MikeJamieson » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:50 pm

I have found declassified "Stargate" material at three key sites:

http://www.starstreamresearch.com/stargate.htm

http://www.remoteviewed.com/remote_viewing_history.htm

http://www.blackvault.com
http://www.blackvault.com/documents/rem ... /final.pdf

Gary, for example, has posted a "Senate Appropriations Committee
Congressionally Directed Action" addressed to the CIA in May 1995.
It requests that the Director of the CIA do a review (and technical
analysis) of its records related to the RV program. The paper then
summarizes the history of the RV programs arising from all other
"Department of Defense Service organizations" (including arms of
the Army, Navy, and Air Force with the Defense Intelligence Agency
likewise involved). The CIA's response essentially came later in
the form of the AIR report.

It's a great summary history, with amount of money appropriated, through
the early 1990s.

In addition to an early Navy program (about which not much was said),
this paper identifies the Air Force's Foreign Technology Division at Wright Patterson as beginning an involvement with SRI and RV (late in 1975):
"The U.S. Air Force National Air Intelligence Center, formerly the Foreign
Technology Division (FTD), initiated its program by asking whether the
phenomena existed and whether it could be used to collect intelligence.
The analysis revealed that further research was required before remote
viewing (RV) could become an effective tool. As a result, FTD began to
to explore areas that would have a direct bearing on improving the
application of RV to include the effects of feedback and effectiveness over
distance. In addition, FTD focused on the former Soviet Union and
initiated attempts to replicate foreign experiments. No further information
is on file about the FTD work in this arena."
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Dale Graff, notes from Smith's READING THE ENEMY'S MIND

Postby MikeJamieson » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:47 pm

Paul Smith, near as I can tell from his reference notes, interviewed
Graff many times from 1997-2001.

Graff "enters" the story now, late in 1975 (page 78, paperback edition):

"Graff's interest in psi arose from intelligence research he was doing
into ESP-related work going on behind the Iron Curtain. As a civilian
analyst with a physics background, his job was to forecast new weapons
and technologies that the USSR might develop in the next twenty years.
One of his reports included a section on credible Soviet ESP research.
Along with correspondence between Graff and Puthoff, this helped
persuade the FTD's command staff to bring Puthoff and Targ in for
a briefing at FTD. After the two left, Graff was invited to a closed-door
meeting, where it was decided to fund the SRI effort on an exploratory
basis for a year."

Graff "exits" the story after the above......for many years, and then returns
in 1991 (through his retirement in 1993) as the sole branch chief for
the DIA's remote viewing unit at Fort Meade. This is during a period when
the operational aspect significantly drys up. With research and data organization given higher priority. Graff's Fort Meade stint is his third
full time job at this time period! (Contributing, says Smith, to his inability
to fend off political challenges to the program. Also, interesting impact
of soap opera involving Senator DeAmato, a staffer, and a viewer.)

So.......a lot of research focus now on the FTD "chapter". (The last portion
of the story involving Graff comes much later.)
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Re: Dale Graff, notes from Smith's READING THE ENEMY'S MIND

Postby Gary » Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:26 am

* Spies and Agents of the Extraterrestrial Presence

Gary S. Bekkum / STARpod.org

4/7/2008
"Physicists under our control are working for the government to use psychic powers. In the future you will help them achieve our goal." -- paraphrasing an anonymous non-human phenomenological source, within a few days of July 19th, 1974.

http://stargate007.blogspot.com/2008/04 ... trial.html

SECRET PROJECT GRILL FLAME HISTORY
Project Grill Flame is a DoD/Intelligence program set up for the following purposes:

To assess the potential for U.S. applications of developments in parapsychology ("ESP," Psi,Psychoenergetics).

To determine the threat potential of corresponding Soviet/East Bloc efforts.

Major Decision Points

1972 - Startup of a continuous effort, still ongoing, involving SRI International as major contractor, and a number of agencies as sponsors (CIA, FTD, MIA, DIA, etc.)..*

1978 - Effort compartmentalized under codeword GRILL FLAME.

1979 - In-house applications program set up by Army's Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM).

1980 - Joint Services Integrated Program set up under single-agency (DIA) management to handle external contracts.

Budget Date / Organization / Thousands of $

1971-75 CIA $195

1975-76 NAVELEX $74

1976-79 FTD, WRIGHT-PATTERSON AFB $300

1977-80 MIA, REDSTONE ARSENAL $281

1978-80 AMSAA, ABERDEEN PROVING GROUND $230

1978-80 DIA $228

1979-80 ARMY INSCOM $75

JOINT PROGRAM


FY 1981 DIA $300


ARMY INSCOM $130


FY 1982 DIA $ 330


ARMY INSCOM $185


FY 1983 DIA $340
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Re: Collaborative thread for future articles.

Postby MikeJamieson » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:26 pm

I realized a week or so ago that I had read one of Graff's two books!

The books by many RV operational participants cover different time periods
and operations. I'm trying to sort out which ones I have read over the years
(perhaps several: McNoneagle; Morehouse; Graff; Smith for sure.)

Near as I can tell, Graff isn't really involved with strict RV. He's more in tune
with the dynamics and psychic accessing methodology of a Carl Jung, imo.

Today he teaches people how to access their intuitive capacities, with dreams
as an important "place" to be "psychic".

Also, research was a higher priority with Graff (it seems to me, from what I've read) than
actual operational tasking.

There's an interesting story (involving Gen. Lew Allen) on how and why the RV program
did NOT continue in the Air Force. Ego, politics, and personal biases
(exhibited by extreme skeptics or by those with religious objections etc. plays a big part
in this RV history). Perhaps the oddest (and obviously blanket defamatory perspective) comes
from Ken Kress who came to believe that psychics are people not to be trusted and who
seem to have a special gift alright: the ability to hoodwink people.

I'd like to share a sneaking suspicion that I'm developing (perhaps this is psychic!?!!?, lol):
when Graff took over the DIA program in the early 90s, the use of RV as an intelligence
gathering tool was adopted by some other highly covert govt. agency.
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Re: Collaborative thread for future articles.

Postby Gary » Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:57 pm

Allegedly the National Security Agency (NSA) remains active in theoretical research, and possibly operational tasking, per a source verified to us by investigative journalist/author Gus Russo.

A few links ...


Inside the National Security Agency: Are Psychic Spies Watching ...

A source reports to investigative writer Gus Russo that the NSA is running a super-secret remote viewing program.

http://www.starpod.org/inside_the_nsa.htm

Spies, Lies, and Polygraph Tape: NSA Warrantless Mind-taps?

Aug 3, 2007 ... This is the only aspect of the NSA activities that can be discussed publicly because it is the only aspect of those various activities whose ...

www.stargate007.blogspot.com/2007/08/ns ... -taps.html

TIGER Tales -- Psychic Spies and the War on Terror by Gary S. Bekkum
Forget about wire taps and NSA phone call records -- the privacy issue of the 21st ... She has received numerous awards from the CIA, the NSA, and the DIA. ...

http://www.starstreamresearch.com/tiger_tales.htm

Spies, Lies, and Polygraph Tape: CIA, Scientology, and Remote Viewing

[94] The NSA's David Young—who has been granted immunity by Watergate ... The question of present-day NSA involvement in the psychic spy arena, ...

www.stargate007.blogspot.com/2007/07/ci ... ewing.html

Physics - Intelligence - Consciousness -- News and Feature Stories ...

Recently we learned from Gus Russo that the super-secretive National Security Agency (NSA) may still be in the psychic spying business. ...

http://www.starstreamresearch.com/news.htm

Spies, Lies, and Polygraph Tape: R.J. Hillhouse: "A CIA ...
Dec 31, 2007 ... The NSA notifies the CIA. CIA analysts who are new to the job due to ... The ODNI passes the intel along to the CIA and NSA and as word of ...

www.stargate007.blogspot.com/2007/12/rj ... stmas.html

Defense Intelligence Agency Explores Weird Science by Gary S. Bekkum

A list of names of committee members involved in this particular wild 'tiger tale' apparently was intercepted by the NSA, or so we are told. ...

http://www.starstreamresearch.com/weird_science.htm

Spies, Lies, and Polygraph Tape: National Security Agency thwarted ...

Sep 14, 2007 ... If NSA inherited the program, we expect a transmission mechanism was discovered ... BTW -- if there are any NSA phenomenologists in need of ...

www.stargate007.blogspot.com/2007/09/na ... by-et.html

Starpod.org Report: The Dark Matters of Dark Energy: American ...

Another potential application that should be of enormous interest to the CIA and the NSA is mentioned by Shoulders in his paper, "Projectiles from the Dark ...

http://www.starstreamresearch.com/dark_ ... energy.htm

Spies, Lies, and Polygraph Tape: Google Gets Cozy with U.S. ...

Mar 31, 2008 ... Google partners with NSA, CIA on intelligence database There are three levels of information available to users: Top secret, ...

www.stargate007.blogspot.com/2008/03/go ... gence.html

Spies, Lies, and Polygraph Tape: DIA Threat Assessment: Mind ...

Jan 28, 2008 ... U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S. Air Force, Unified and Specific Commands, as well as CIA and NSA and the Dept. of Energy and the State Dept. ...

www.stargate007.blogspot.com/2008/01/di ... ol-is.html


Spies, Lies, and Polygraph Tape: Guilt by Association: UFO SOAP ...

Dec 24, 2007 ... the tape remains innocent of charges until proven guilty, so all of you NSA-enthusiasts are free to make a case one way or the other). ...

www.stargate007.blogspot.com/2007/12/gu ... opera.html

Spooky Spy Agency Tricks and Treats

Oct 27, 2007 ... And, like previous rumors of psychic espionage programs operated by CIA, NSA, DIA, USAF, and the Navy, at a time when those programs were ...

www.starpod.org/spooky_spy_agency_tricks_and_treats.htm

Spies, Lies, and Polygraph Tape: 'Source CoR25' Goes Silent

Meanwhile, our focus has shifted for the time being, as we investigate post-STAR GATE use of anomalous mental phenomena, perhaps at the NSA and other ...

www.stargate007.blogspot.com/2007/07/so ... ilent.html

Minds, Machines, and Madness: Human Time Machines and the War on ...

Oct 13, 2007 ... According to Gus Russo's source, someone familiar with NSA operations, the program was transferred to the NSA and remains in business. ...

starpod.org/human_time_machines_and_the_war_on_terror.htm

Spies, Lies, and Polygraph Tape

Google partners with NSA, CIA on intelligence database There are three levels of information available to users: Top secret, secret and sensitive but ...

stargate007.blogspot.com/

Uri Geller Phenomenon of CIA Interest

Oct 18, 2007 ... It is possible that the CIA killed the STAR GATE program to protect a next-generation project that was secretly underway at NSA. ...

starpod.org/uri_geller_a_phenomenon_of_cia_interest.htm

STARpod.org Books of Interest

More recently we heard a rumor passed to us by investigative author Gus Russo that the NSA had resurrected a deep black super-secret psychic program that ...

www.starpod.org/books.htm
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Re: Collaborative thread for future articles.

Postby ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:46 pm

Gary - we don't mind your linking back to your own site here and there...but come on now... lol

You probably aren't aware or doing it intentionally, and while it raises your google rankings, it's generally poor "net-etiqutte" to do it too much, or at least to do it without recipricating to the same degree.

Just something to be congnizant of in the future - your post above is fine for now.

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Re: Collaborative thread for future articles.

Postby ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:48 pm

Oh...and by the way - I thought a few months ago you said that you are only interested in official government documents, and not "rumors" and heresay?

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Re: Collaborative thread for future articles.

Postby dazdude » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:16 pm

Mike,
at the time you mention and after this time the NSA was up a number of times for the Remote viewing endevour to be transferred to them - which means there may also be something in Garys rumours as its clear form the documentation that the NSA were interested in taking hold of the unit. But I have to agree - until I can see some hard data I cant say it was continued - I would say that if it were it was with the second trained and better unit that Ingo trained that dissapeared and was totally detached from teh Meade effort which was left to degenerate - maybe on purpose.

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Re: Collaborative thread for future articles.

Postby Gary » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:46 pm

ryguy wrote:Oh...and by the way - I thought a few months ago you said that you are only interested in official government documents, and not "rumors" and heresay?

-Ry


In order to protect Russo's "deep thought" source I cannot say more. :-)

"Not for attribution" (as described by the Canadian Association of Journalists). The comments may be quoted directly, but the source may only be identified in general terms (e.g., "a government insider"). In practice such general descriptions may be agreed with the interviewee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_sourcing

Of course that rule only applies to journalists, not to spies using the Internet to elicit information ;-)
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Re: Collaborative thread for future articles.

Postby ryguy » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:20 pm

Gary wrote:In order to protect Russo's "deep thought" source I cannot say more. :-)


Oh right, I forgot...when Starstream quotes an anonymous source - it's a "classified source" - when RU quotes an official source, Gary calls it "rumor". lol...

Here...hold on a sec.

**Ryan pulls a 5 foot tall mirror out of his back pocket and holds it up in front of Gary**

Of course that rule only applies to journalists, not to spies using the Internet to elicit information ;-)


Does it apply to wanna-be spies trying to drum up drama on the internet by quoting sources who's only intent is to create drama?

The reason you won't elaborate on the source is because you know perfectly well what most people think about legitimacy of data (or lack thereof) coming from that source.

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