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Re: MINDTAP

Postby ryguy » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:05 pm

Gary wrote:The idea is to reproduce the 'technology' of the Skinwalker, or so it would seem, at a far more primitive level -- assuming Skinwalker represents advanced technology thousands or millions of years beyond the 21st century.

Whether or not that seems so crazy probably depends upon the human experience of the phenomena; perhaps some day the NIDS physicist will come forward with the tale.


Well, since one of the earliest NIDS directors left NIDS because he disagreed with their approach (not following up on all relevant leads) - it's more likely that the NIDS scientists (one of whom is researching zero point energy and the other is researching "prion disease") have absolutely no answers.

Once Bigelow's funding ran out for that project - they moved on to projects where the money could be had.

If you're looking for answers from NIDS - you're looking in the wrong place.

This former director said, by the way, that they often would not follow up on the leads that indicated hoaxing or manipulating activies...such as interviewing locals who had information of the background regarding some of the activities, etc...

Skinwalker "technology" has its origins in the local Native American subculture of the area, not species of creatures from another planet.

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Re: MINDTAP

Postby Gary » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:57 pm

**Note** - Gary...sorry...just getting used to the new forum and I edited instead of replied to your post!!

Please repost if you recall what you wrote - I have a partial quote below.

So it is -- possible -- that the Skinwalker-like phenomenology might be the manifestation of interaction with unseen worlds, some perhaps with different laws of physics (or even arrows of time!).
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Re: MINDTAP

Postby ryguy » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:04 pm

So it is -- possible -- that the Skinwalker-like phenomenology might be the manifestation of interaction with unseen worlds, some perhaps with different laws of physics (or even arrows of time!).


Gary - this is probably about as close as we can get to a decent marriage between theoretical physics and spirituality.

Because the comment you've written above would agree with the ancient Native American history of the area and the manifestations that tribes reported throughout their spiritual oral histories regarding interactions with unseen worlds.

It's definitely fascinating phenomenon to read about - particularly the reports of other-worldly animals that so closely resemble the skinwalker reports that have been going on in that area for a very long time.

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Re: MINDTAP

Postby Gary » Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:38 am

Hi Ryan,

Here's a different link to a more extensive paper by Gato-Rivera from arxiv.org on brane worlds, Fermi's paradox, etc.

http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0512062

and this one:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0512062v3

Here is the short version:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0605096v1

In contrast with the inflationary cosmologies, brane world cosmologies have the potential
to truly strengthen the Fermi Paradox. The reason is that in the brane world
scenarios our observable Universe is embedded in a much larger cosmos with, at least,
one more large spatial dimension. Along the large extra spatial dimensions there may be
other universes which could be parallel to our own, or intersecting it somewhere. If any
of these scenarios turns out to describe the real world, then it would be natural to expect
that some of these universes would have the same laws of Physics as ours and many of the
corresponding advanced civilizations could master techniques to travel or ‘jump’ through
the extra dimensions for visitation or colonization purposes. Moreover, one has to take
into account that many of these universes could be very close to ours, even at less than
one millimeter distance along an extra dimension. This opens up enormous possibilities
regarding the expansion of advanced civilizations simultaneously through several parallel
universes with the same laws of Physics, resulting in multidimensional empires. It could
even happen that the expansion to other ‘parallel’ galaxies through extra dimensions
could be easier, with lower cost, than the expansion inside one’s own galaxy.
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