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New Article Reveals Technology Behind Mind Control

Postby Symore » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:27 am

Have a read people:

http://deepthought.newsvine.com/_news/2010/07/13/4656599-can-a-satellite-read-your-thoughts-physics-revealed

http://deepthought.newsvine.com/_news/2010/09/20/5139785-can-a-satellite-read-your-thoughts-physics-revealed-part-2
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Re: New Article Reveals Technology Behind Mind Control

Postby ryguy » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:01 pm

I actually don't know what to make of it yet...lol.

This declassified doc suggests that injecting "voices" is already possible and accomplished in the lab.

http://www.popsci.com/files/microwave.pdf

In one experiment, communication of the words from one to ten using "speech modulated" microwave energy was successfully demonstrated.


I'm not so quick to believe that actual specific thoughts or physical actions can be induced though. Too many other factors affect behavior.

This was cute though:

From the legitimate crazies to the classic muddy-the-water tactics employed by various defense departments, the article has drawn attention right across the globe.


The post only had 69 comments the last I checked.

Delusions of grandeur anyone? LOL

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Re: New Article Reveals Technology Behind Mind Control

Postby Symore » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:16 am

Well, have a look at the complete range of articles, it will provide a better overview.

Synthetic Telepathy - The Hidden Truth
http://deepthought.newsvine.com/_news/2010/05/21/4322682-synthetic-telepathy-the-hidden-truth
Description: This is where the analysis really begins. Someone attempted to edit a page on Synthetic Telepathy on Wikipedia. This is a copy of the edit that was removed. Whilst these series of articles corrects many of the technical details, the Wikipedia article has some interesting additional claims.


Computer Mediated Synthetic Telepathy: A Conceptual Design
http://deepthought.newsvine.com/_news/2010/06/12/4497355-computer-mediated-synthetic-telepathy-a-conceptual-design
Description: A very high level overview of the architecture required. Whilst I assume it will not be the final revision, it outlines the basics of how the system functions and the Artificial Intelligence that underpins the system.


Advanced A.I. Scanning Facebook
http://deepthought.newsvine.com/_news/2010/06/16/4518628-advanced-ai-scanning-facebook
Description: Inferred abilities of A.I. functionality. Whilst not strictly related, it sets the base standard for what a modern A.I. can do.


Synthetic Telepathy - The Legal Question - Updated
http://deepthought.newsvine.com/_news/2010/06/20/4536056-synthetic-telepathy-the-legal-question-updated
Description: Examines the legal situation of such systems in the US and UK. Provides a strong argument that the use of such technology under existing law constitutes an act of terrorism.


Evaluating The A.I. Behind Synthetic Telepathy
http://deepthought.newsvine.com/_news/2010/06/26/4564331-evaluating-the-ai-behind-synthetic-telepathy
Description: Examines the capabilites of modern A.I. and reveals the strong A.I. behind this technology.


Can A Satellite Read Your Thoughts? - Physics Revealed
http://deepthought.newsvine.com/_news/2010/07/13/4656599-can-a-satellite-read-your-thoughts-physics-revealed
Description: The beginning of a discussion on the physics of two-way interfaces with the brain. The articles demonstrates that firing neurons emit a weak, low frequency, radio wave and that this compromising emanation can be related to neural activity.


Can A Satellite Read Your Thoughts? - Physics Revealed - Part 2
http://deepthought.newsvine.com/_news/2010/09/20/5139785-can-a-satellite-read-your-thoughts-physics-revealed-part-2
Description: Demonstrate how the back-end processing system function and how weak radio signals, from the brain, can be interpreted to reveal thoughts, emotions, physical activity, external audio and vision.
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Re: New Article Reveals Technology Behind Mind Control

Postby Access Denied » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:45 am

Hmm... smells like spam. Links deactivated for now.

Symore, could you please summarize your own thoughts on this matter and respond to Ryan's comments in your own words?
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Re: New Article Reveals Technology Behind Mind Control

Postby Symore » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:02 am

There is not much to reply to in Ryan's comments, they are off-hand ad hominems sprinkled with a denial of physics. I would be forced to teach him and given the initial attitude that does not seem likely. Understandably, that's why there was no response. That said, the specific mechanism he is referring to is cleared up in the new article. In this article, we examine in close detail how low frequency radio waves are converted to sensory input. If you have not really grasped the articles before, this should make it a lot easier.

Symore wrote:Can A Satellite Read Your Thoughts? - Physics Revealed - Part 4
http://deepthought.newsvine.com/_news/2010/10/09/5262967-can-a-satellite-read-your-thoughts-physics-revealed-part-4
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Re: New Article Reveals Technology Behind Mind Control

Postby Access Denied » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:53 pm

What a sad joke, you are wrong on so many levels it’s not even funny. You obviously have no idea what the terms spatial and temporal resolution have to do with measuring brain wave activity…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroencephalography

The electric potentials generated by single neurons are far too small to be picked by EEG or MEG. EEG activity therefore always reflects the summation of the synchronous activity of thousands or millions of neurons that have similar spatial orientation. If the cells do not have similar spatial orientation, their ions do not line up and create waves to be detected. Pyramidal neurons of the cortex are thought to produce most EEG signal because they are well-aligned and fire together. Because voltage fields fall off with the square of the distance, activity from deep sources is more difficult to detect than currents near the skull.

Now what’s wrong with this picture?

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Do you actually think a person’s thoughts can actually be read (never mind influenced) even with this crude of a means of detection from this close with multiple sensors? Hint: They can't. Even if your paranoid delusional spy satellite in space (never mind in the next room) actually could pick out such a infinitesimally small signal from all the noise (it can’t, your “calculation” is incredibly naïve) it would only measure the averaged sum of all activity from one direction which is absolutely meaningless (there's no way to tell what parts of the brain it came from) and if your head moved even the slightest, even more so.

Furthermore, ultra-low noise EEG sensors that don’t require penetration of the scalp or skin contact have only recently been developed… can you guess why that is?
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Re: New Article Reveals Technology Behind Mind Control

Postby Symore » Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:28 pm

You are talking about brainwave activity as measured by EEG. This is quite a different technique as it employs low frequency radio waves. This is not EEG and your examples are inappropriate. As I said before, you are just in denial.

Anyway, the fifth article is out:

Can A Satellite Read Your Thoughts? - Physics Revealed - Part 5
http://deepthought.newsvine.com/_news/2010/10/20/5321399-can-a-satellite-read-your-thoughts-physics-revealed-part-5
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Re: New Article Reveals Technology Behind Mind Control

Postby ryguy » Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:41 pm

Symore wrote:I would be forced to teach him and given the initial attitude that does not seem likely.


You claim to have more training than college Electrical Engineering professors? lol

Understandably, that's why there was no response. That said, the specific mechanism he is referring to is cleared up in the new article. In this article, we examine in close detail how low frequency radio waves are converted to sensory input. If you have not really grasped the articles before, this should make it a lot easier.


Ahh..more spam, great. We shall see.

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