Is "Remote Influencing" for real?

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Re: Is "Remote Influencing" for real?

Postby You Can Call Me Ray » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:40 pm

dazdude wrote:
And this is always where non-scientitic "woo-woos" love to make claims, but cannot back those claims up with even so much as a physical and/or mathematical model for how they THINK it might work.


But this doesnt mean that there is NO such effect - (snip)

absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence.


:zzzzzzzzzzz:

You do realize, I hope, that this exact same bit of logic can be applied to Santa Claus?

Why are there so many people who are willing to play cheerleader and try to convince people that "it is real" but so very few people who are willing to even try and quantify a communication methodology by which it can work, or at least be tested?

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Re: Is "Remote Influencing" for real?

Postby dazdude » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:08 pm

oh cmon eveyone knows santa exists - even the apollo astronauts saw him...lol

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Re: Is "Remote Influencing" for real?

Postby Access Denied » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:50 am

dazdude wrote:oh cmon eveyone knows santa exists - even the apollo astronauts saw him...lol

Yep, as the crew emerged from behind the far side of the Moon and reestablished radio contact...

Apollo 8: Houston, Apollo 8. Over.
Mission Control: Hello, Apollo 8. Loud and clear.
Apollo 8: Please be informed there is a Santa Claus.
Mission Control: That's affirmative. You're the best ones to know.


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Re: Is "Remote Influencing" for real?

Postby Chorlton » Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:51 am

I have a test for those who believe in Remote Influencing.

I have a friend who, when at the pub NEVER buys a drink for anyone other than himself.

I challenge anyone to Remotely Influence him to buy a round a of drinks :lol:

THAT, people, is as impossible as John Lears theory of people living on Mars.
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Re: Is "Remote Influencing" for real?

Postby Gary » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:49 pm

You Can Call Me Ray wrote:
Why are there so many people who are willing to play cheerleader and try to convince people that "it is real" but so very few people who are willing to even try and quantify a communication methodology by which it can work, or at least be tested?

Ray


From: Gary S Bekkum / SSR [mailto:garysbekkum@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 9:45 PM
To: [redacted]
Subject: Re: Bio-physical aspect of mental information
If I might momentarily digress from the interesting metaphysical discussion this thread has spawned, I
have in my hands a CIA declassified document "SECRET Statement of Work for Biophysical Research
and Analysis" from sometime around 1991.
This work was focused on biophysical research and analysis of neuromagnetic phenomena, to identify
correlations of brain neuromagnetic responses to a variety of independent conditions or parameters, i.e. a
measurable telepathic connection.
In this document, justification is made for direct MIPR action from DIA to LANL (Los Alamos) based
upon a 1985-89 LANL study sponsored by the Army's Surgeon General Research and Development
office. In the previous study it is reported that the LANL Biophysics group investigations yielded
POSITIVE results. This new effort was part of DIA's over-all Phenomenological Research Program
(STAR GATE is not directly mentioned). Dr. Charles Wood is noted as the Biophysical Group's
director.
"Sole source procurement from LANL is the proper action for accomplishing this sensitive task."
The contract is scheduled to be signed by John T. Berbrich, Asst. Deputy Director for Science and
Technical Intelligence.
The budget of $250,000 comes from FY91 DIA line item 1.004 for Congressional Directed Action.
The positive results of the mentioned research would be an example of what I meant by registration of the
telepathic information.
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Re: Is "Remote Influencing" for real?

Postby caleban » Wed May 07, 2008 2:39 am

I have a test for those who believe in Remote Influencing.


And I have a demonstration tailored for someone who is sufficiently skeptical on the
topic. May I try it on you, Chorlton ?

It appears you do meet the qualification.
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Re: Is "Remote Influencing" for real?

Postby Chorlton » Wed May 07, 2008 8:07 am

Caleban
You are living under some sort of missaprehension.
It would seem that you think I actually give a damn about anything you say.
Lets put you straight eh?.

I dont.
OK?

Now go, and try and wind up someone else because it isnt working with me.
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Re: Is "Remote Influencing" for real?

Postby caleban » Wed May 07, 2008 8:34 am

You are living under some sort of missaprehension.
It would seem that you think I actually give a damn about anything you say.


I love you too, Chorlton. I take that as a yes.

Now go, and try and wind up someone else because it isnt working with me.


I am trying to wind you down, not up. My apology Chorlton, it is working with you.
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Re: Is "Remote Influencing" for real?

Postby Chorlton » Wed May 07, 2008 9:50 am

caleban wrote:
You are living under some sort of missaprehension.
It would seem that you think I actually give a damn about anything you say.

I love you too, Chorlton. I take that as a yes.

Then you take it wrong.

Now go, and try and wind up someone else because it isnt working with me.

I am trying to wind you down, not up. My apology Chorlton, it is working with you.

I see you still have severe problems with comprehension.
As I quite clearly stated, your attempts to wind me up dont work. Many people with far more expertise than you have tried and failed over many years.
Now Ill just ignore you, as I see many others are doing so you enjoy yourself.
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Re: Is "Remote Influencing" for real?

Postby caleban » Wed May 07, 2008 10:08 am

Experiment Goal: Confront a group entity with the external perception/reputation of the group.

(Select an appropriate legal image to convey the dichotomy of using science to "prosecute" all heretical believers.)

(Select an appropriate participant/traits to role-play the image.)

Participant selected/validated on Mar 16, 2008 8:49 am
Thread: Im a bit confused Pg 1.

Thread earth2 close to the truth about ATS hoaxes, pg 2
April 4, 1:51 am, IAS drop: influence participant to select appropriate legal image.

Drop Zone: ".... That disclaimer suggests there is "barrister" in your blood. Enough to even invest in a robe and wig ?"

Time delay to Trigger: 25 days

The biggest Lie from SkepticOverlord and ATS, page 3
April 29 9:47 am : Trigger IAS drop for participant

Trigger:".... Judging by the look of your avatar, you have it
perfected now."

Time Delay to response (includes posting mechanics): 1 hour, 12 minutes

The biggest Lie from SkepticOverlord and ATS, page 4
April 29, 10:59 am

Response:
"As you seem to live in a constant state of self hypnosis Ill take your word for it. Im amazed, however, you
take seriously anyones avatar, it was attempted to bring a little levity to ATS but even there some retards took it
to mean something personal. "

Validation:
"So Just for you, Ive changed it."

(And I love it. I could not have found a better one myself. Thank you.)

Drop result: Participant's new "Barrister" avatar is complete with "robe and wig". Accuracy level 100

Planet X/Nibiru thread
Barrister guidance Traits now clearly evident (note legalese below)
May 01, 2008 8:59 am
Complete response quote:

"I see you are happy to refer to yourself as a 'Loonie'
I shall therefore use this article as a prima facie precedent if ever I am pulled up for calling you one."

Augment guidance traits:

What's the point, page 2
Fri May 02, 2008 6:12 am

"The fog is starting to lift !"

I can see that. It was a gift, Chorlton. You now have
a positive induced autosuggestion to strive for. Your
recent posts show a slightly more positive trend in
how you relate to others. If you continue to allow
this to work, you will achieve a much more positive
balance in your perspectives. Your reputation with
others will improve towards what you think it is.

(Attempts to break placebo effect rejected. Show participant his
data-set summary.)
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