UFO in Wales

[Chorlton]

This is from the UK newspaper 'The Sun' about as good as the US national Enquirer

"STUNNED police gave chase to a UFO after it attacked their helicopter near a military base. "

Then further down the page we have this:

"The chopper is crammed with hi-tech cameras and surveillance gear, but the UFO somehow avoided being caught on film"

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... 315843.ece

I suspect they were just out on a jolly and needed an excuse for being late back.

[JayKew]

For my sins I live in the Brecon Beacons about 25 miles from the "incident".

I will see if it is reported in next weeks weekly newspaper and report accordingly.

[You Can Call Me Ray]

It would seem that this fact:

This is from the UK newspaper 'The Sun' about as good as the US national Enquirer

It totally coherent and consistent with this report:

"The chopper is crammed with hi-tech cameras and surveillance gear, but the UFO somehow avoided being caught on film"

Perhaps then the appropriate analogy for ATS would not be so much a Walmart of forums, nor even a latrine of forums, but rather more The Sun/National Enquirer of forums?

Ray

[Gary]

BTW United Press International (UPI) has picked up the UFO story:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/06/20/ ... 214002744/

The British Ministry of Defense, which typically investigates cases involving UFOs, said police have not informed it of the incident.

"We've heard nothing about this. But it is certainly not advisable for police helicopters to go chasing what they think are UFOs," a representative said.

And FOX News:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369724,00.html

The cops admitted the incident much more dryly: "South Wales Police can confirm its air support unit sighted an unusual aircraft. This was reported to the relevant authorities for their investigation."

The police denied there had been an attack, a pursuit or any danger to the helicopter's crew.

And this one from AFP:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080620/od ... ufooffbeat

And now the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7465041.stm

George Withrington, of St Mellons, said he reported the sighting to police and was given an incident number.

The ex-RAF glider pilot said he was sitting in his garden reading a book on 8 June when he spotted the object at around 1620hrs.

[torbjon]

"The ex-RAF glider pilot said he was sitting in his garden reading a book on 8 June when he spotted the object at around 1620hrs."

1620 military = 420 civilian...

420 always makes me suspicious...

and if that went over anyones head Don't worry about it, I'm being silly, and this post contributes absolutely Nothing of value to this thread...

I get spanked for that, don't I?

I go now, sorry.
twj

[You Can Call Me Ray]

420 always makes me suspicious...

Wonder if he got really, really hungry after seeing that UFO overhead?

I get spanked for that, don't I?

Not as long as you "pass the Dutchie on the left hand side".
Ray

[Chorlton]

420 always makes me suspicious...

Wonder if he got really, really hungry after seeing that UFO overhead?

I get spanked for that, don't I?

Not as long as you "pass the Dutchie on the left hand side".
Ray

Never realised you were into Reggae music Ray ?

[torbjon]

Man, I really derailed this thread, sorry 'bout that...

I am Serious though, "420" does make me suspicious.

Apparently it's more or less a universal understanding these days...

"around 1620" is an Estimate... They guy CHOSE 1620 for a reason... he could have just as easily said "around 1615" or "around 1625" and been just as accurate... but he chose 4:20

sure sure, Maybe an ex RAF sky pilot doesn't have a clue what that means, stranger things have been known to happen *shrugs*

Unless the time really IS 4:20 I find that an odd number to just toss out there, tha's all.

Kumbia Kings here I come! (totally forgot that ditty, thanks Ray)

[Gary]

Seeing is believing?

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/06/24/ac.360.shot.mxf.cnn

[Zep Tepi]

That video above has nothing to do with this sighting. That particular video is from 2003, but is also taken from a police helicopter.

Edit to add: After having another look, I believe Chorlton would be the best person for describing what that particular object most likely is

This video below has a little more information on the "Welsh UFO", including the fact that they (the police) failed to capture the object on camera:


Cheers,
Steve

[Gary]

Good Steve, that's much closer to what I expect from RU reporting! (One of the reasons I posted the CNN report here, BTW. Saves me the work of tracking it down

The story taken at face value is a prime example of the phenomena and concerns found in the MoD files.


[Mod Edit: trimmed unnecessary quote of entire previous post]

[Access Denied]

Gary, please refrain from quoting entire posts… it’s considered poor forum etiquette. Thanks.

Also, taking any UFO report at “face value” is the primary reason UFOlogy has ZERO credibility… well, that and the fact that there’s ZERO evidence to support the ETH. Fortunately the MoD understands this…

[Chorlton]

Re: the object in the CNN Video.
To me it looks like some sort of reflection as its seems to move relative to the underslung camera as that moves.

Considering the definition of everything else in the frames, that object has little definition, something I would expect from a lens reflection. Those cameras are mounted inside underslung pods.

[Zep Tepi]

I emailed Oonagh Moore, the South Wales Police Press & PR Officer for the Vale of Glamorgan Division about this sighting. This is her reply

Hi Stephen

Please find below all the information we are releasing in relation to this incident.

Kind regards
Oonagh

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A South Wales Police spokesperson said:
“South Wales Police can confirm the South & East Wales Air Support Unit sighted an unusual aircraft. This was reported to the relevant authorities for their investigation. In today’s skies, there are a wide variety of aircrafts which come in a range of different shapes and sizes and in all probability, this sighting has just confirmed that one of these was in the area at the relevant time."
Extra information:

**It was not a flying saucer and has not been described as so.

**the helicopter did not chase it.

**the police helicopter was not attacked.

**The unusual aircraft did not speed straight at the helicopter.

** The helicopter did not have to swerve sharply to avoid being hit and the crew would not have been "dead" as stated in The Sun.

**The helicopter did not follow it, or chase it, across the Bristol Channel and the North Devon coast.

**we haven't confirmed any of the details in The Sun story and a lot of the details are inaccurate.

**The South & East Wales Air Support Unit is a facility shared between South Wales Police and Gwent Police.

ENDS

I am currently writing an article about this subject, but the information above can be verified by contacting Oonagh Moore at Oonagh.Moore@south-wales.pnn.police.uk Telephone Number: (01446) 731 681 Ext: 32 826

Cheers,
Steve

[ryguy]

Great work Steve - looking forward to the article!

-Ry