Carrion, Bigelow and OM?

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Re: Carrion, Bigelow and OM?

Postby Zep Tepi » Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:31 pm

Same here. I must admit I found Ivo's "LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL" after a comment directed at James Carrion to be very strange indeed. The massed ranks attack was everything Carrion said it was and something we have experienced first hand more than enough times.
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Re: Carrion, Bigelow and OM?

Postby Empire » Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:41 pm

Christopher "Kit" Green and Richard "C" Doty are involved behind the scenes at Open Minds Forum, yes? In Greens case, several times over. What about Robert "Captain" Collins? What tangled webs they weave!
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Re: Carrion, Bigelow and OM?

Postby packetStorm » Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:09 pm

ryguy wrote:nothing of substance has ever surfaced that solidly weighs that hypothesis more heavily than the one where RV was simply a failed government research project (like so many others), that eventually got shut down by enough people with sense and reason coming along and realizing that the government had been just as sucked into "the scam" as wealthy believers do.

'A Course In Miracles' ... just saying :wink:
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Re: Carrion, Bigelow and OM?

Postby ryguy » Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:18 pm

packetStorm wrote:'A Course In Miracles' ... just saying :wink:


No thanks!! I avoid anything that comes from modern "channeled messages" like the plague - and I can assure you, despite the claims of various cults, the messages do not come from "Jesus."

I suppose that's a discussion for the spirituality forum - irrelevant to this particular thread.
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Re: Carrion, Bigelow and OM?

Postby packetStorm » Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:10 pm

lol ... no .. the Voice:

...There’s nothing that I would call ordinary audition about this at all. ... It’s a curious thing that will be very difficult to explain. Somebody asked me, Was it as though your hand was moving? No. I wrote perfectly voluntarily in response to I call it a voice, but 'a voice' has sounds...or sounds as though it has something to do with hearing. And I didn’t hear anything. I think it’s the sort of hearing that you can’t really describe. It doesn’t have anything to do with ears, or waves hitting a drum or anything on that order. I don’t really know, I think maybe I’m using the wrong word when I say hear. I sort of recognized it, it was very rapid, I could even....if I didn’t catch a phrase, I could sort of say, Would you mind doing that again?

http://acim.org/Scribing/the_voice.html

CIA operation ... synthetic telepathy ... maybe?
http://www.conspiracy-times.com/content/view/104/37

But my point is the SRI film entitled "Experiments with Uri Geller." filmed at the Electronics and Bioengineering Laboratory of the Stanford Research Institute ... with Mitchel, Puthoff, Targ etc.. Note the short sentence at the end of the video transcript which states: "This research was sponsored by The Foundation for Parasensory Investigation, New York City."
http://site.uri-geller.com/remote_perce ... _institute

The Foundation for Parasensory Investigation is the original name of the Foundation for Inner Peace
http://acim.org/index.html

Then look again at the founders of the SRI projects, The Foundation for Parasensory Investigation: Judith Skutch Whitson, President and Chairperson, Helen Schucman and William Thetford, Professors of Medical Psychology at Columbia University's College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York City.

And ... http://www.scribd.com/doc/14062240/MK-U ... ity-Theory.

I can't provide evidence ... because unfortunately the truth at best is only available in a redacted form ... but for one not to question the true intent of the game played at SRI is short sighted IMHO :(
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Re: Carrion, Bigelow and OM?

Postby ryguy » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:00 pm

You write this:

packetStorm wrote:I can't provide evidence ... because unfortunately the truth at best is only available in a redacted form ... but for one not to question the true intent of the game played at SRI is short sighted IMHO :(


But...actually you just did provide evidence of a sort - at least enough to suggest a connection between the Puthoff/Targ SRI research and the Foundation for Inner Peace - as you point out here:

But my point is the SRI film entitled "Experiments with Uri Geller." filmed at the Electronics and Bioengineering Laboratory of the Stanford Research Institute ... with Mitchel, Puthoff, Targ etc.. Note the short sentence at the end of the video transcript which states: "This research was sponsored by The Foundation for Parasensory Investigation, New York City."
http://site.uri-geller.com/remote_perce ... _institute

The Foundation for Parasensory Investigation is the original name of the Foundation for Inner Peace
http://acim.org/index.html


Nice. :)

Now you've provided new leads, and a new, updated research hit-list for further investigation into the source(s) of funding for the Puthoff/Targ SRI research. Again, we have to be careful not to classify the Puthoff/Targ research as encompassing all of SRI research - SRI was/is a huge think-tank that undertook a great deal of legitimate/valid research. I would hazard a guess that Puthoff's work was but a minor blip on their radar, and probably a bit of research that the organization doesn't exactly publish on their marketing materials. :)

- Judith Skutch Whitson, President and Chairperson
- Helen Schucman and William Thetford, Professors of Medical Psychology at Columbia University's College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York City.

Thanks - great post! :)

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