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Postby You Can Call Me Ray » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:15 am

Here, zplix, let me help ease your mind with regard to these petty doings by those NWO powers. You got bigger things to worry about. Put down the bong, watch this video, and then decide who you can blame for THIS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3RLx_4Y5Y

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Postby caleban » Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:29 am

Access Denied wrote:I'm having fun with this aren't you?

I was till you threw in the egg over-easy. Now I am hungry for midnite breakfast.

As for Ray,

Thanks for the best laugh I have had in a bit, so current avatar in your honor Ray.
That video had me in tears. Some highlights are worth mentioning. Lets see,
about one minute in Nibiru is mysteriously (GIMP drawing?) in the direction of Orion.
(Visible only from the South Pole ?)
About 3:50 the ONLY photo of Nibiru (dated 2002) is a gridkeeper-like camera shake
but still identifiable as V838 Monocerotis and certainly NOT visible only from the
south pole.

RA: 07h04m04.846s
DEC: -03°50'51.12"

Here is a clear view:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V838_Monocerotis

Did I actually see what appeared to be the Twin Towers supposedly taken down by a
tidal wave in 2013 ? Just going by the caption. The scene was from a disaster
movie I think. The orbital mechanics was right out of cartoon carnival.
I loved the final captions: "My mission in life is truth and understanding".
"Knowing is Power, Understanding is Wisdom". I laughed till I cried over those.

I think we should offer up some real facts to be concerned over, instead of Nibiru.
Lets see, visible from the south pole? Yes ! Carina nebula near the Southern Cross.
Largest unstable star in the Galaxy, and the ONLY one so far that seems to emit
UV Laser light. It is being monitored around the clock (So we dont miss it when
it blows). Threat to Earth - unknown but possible. Yes ! Far neater name than
Nibiru, which sounds like it came from Disney"s Lion King.

I give you Eta Carinae:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/a ... 00307.html
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Postby Access Denied » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:49 pm

*** the above posts were moved here from another thread ***

[now adding my $0.02...]

:shock:

I blame The Man From Planet X…

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[and ignorance]

Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy: Misconceptions: Planet X
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/

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Postby You Can Call Me Ray » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:13 am

caleban wrote:Thanks for the best laugh I have had in a bit, so current avatar in your honor Ray. That video had me in tears.


Thanks, Cal, and I am glad you got a kick out of it too. Other elements that amused me about the video is where, at the beginning, it discusses that this is the video (of the 3) which has the most "evidence". But I looked, and I looked, and darned if I could not find ANY veridical evidence in the whole video... although there was certainly a lot of CLAIMS which weak-minded folks could misconstrue as evidence.

I have noted that Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy have jumped on the Planet X bandwagon using their Project Camelot "alternative news outlet" as their means for spreading unverified claims as if they are important and/or true.

Perhaps one of these days I will attempt to build a list of all the things that people believe are going to happen come December 21, 2012. There is no doubt the list is getting quite long, and far from attempting to cull the list, many people just want to add to it!

With my luck, the world will probably run out of Baskin-Robbins Peanut Butter & Chocolate ice cream in 2012. And to lose my favorite flavor... I don't know HOW I could go on! ;)

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Postby Access Denied » Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:48 am

Instead of a neverending list how about a Letterman style "Top Ten Reasons the World Will End in 2012"?

With any luck we can refer back to it in 2013 and all laugh about it. :D

I like this web site...

It's The End Of The World As We Know It... Again
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Postby caleban » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:42 am

Thanks, Cal, and I am glad you got a kick out of it too. Other elements
that amused me....


I could tell. And we both left off the real knee slapper. The map of the South Pole with
McMurdough Sound firmly marked, followed by the "view" of Nibiru looking like a sun
dog near the setting sun, yeah, just past the PALM TREE over the Antartic waters.

Perhaps one of these days I will attempt to build a list ...
switch quote...
nstead of a neverending list how about a Letterman style ...


Thats a good double point. Now we landed here, what do we do with this thing?
And 'fess up time. That other thread was spiraling into a disaster, so I took
the cue from Ray to use the "Total Hi-Jack Save" on it. And ethically so,
since the OP himself deviated so far from topic that it should be re-titled
as "Don't Tase me Bro !" AD, that thread should have been guided back
to topic gently, or terminated way before it became a propaganda fest.
I say this to point to an example for future moderation needs on a small
forum that should not really need them. <==My assumption about small forums
was wrong in this example.

P.S. Caleban re: your current avatar it's perfect!


Thank you. And your P.S. comment is a perfect link-back to
the other thread. The one that sorta went to the "dogs". (Ray,
from the dog's perspective, it means we won that round.) But back to
the real problem here. We are in the Reality section in a thread
titled "Planet x/Nibiru". So it looks like the "punishment" fits
the "crime". How do we turn this "kennel" into something worth
reading ? AD, no disrespect, but the Letterman suggestion sounds
boring.

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Postby You Can Call Me Ray » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:32 pm

caleban wrote: The map of the South Pole with
McMurdough Sound firmly marked, followed by the "view" of Nibiru looking like a sun
dog near the setting sun, yeah, just past the PALM TREE over the Antartic waters.


Let me attempt some twisted "true believer" logic here:

OK, so can you PROVE TO ME that palm trees can NOT grow in Antarctica? I mean, it COULD be possible! (But I won't even estimate a probability) :)

And ethically so,
since the OP himself deviated so far from topic that it should be re-titled
as "Don't Tase me Bro !"


ROTFL!

We are in the Reality section in a thread
titled "Planet x/Nibiru". So it looks like the "punishment" fits
the "crime". How do we turn this "kennel" into something worth
reading ?


Challenge accepted!!! The REALITY of potential "10th planets" beyond Pluto (which has been de-canonized as a planet, so that poses a new twist) is that Dr. Mike Brown and his colleagues DID indeed find something out in the Kuiper Belt.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005 ... lanetx.htm

Of course, this does not aid the Niburu crowd, since they were claiming NASA found Niburu back in the 70s (but can provide no NASA announcement). And some Niburuites were claiming Niburu would visit us and wreak its havoc as early as 2003! Details, details!!! Anyway, while decommissioning Pluto "they" apparantly DID give Dr. Brown's discovery a name of "Sedna", but I do not think it is classified as a planet. Note on Brown;s own page he clearly calls it an OBJECT but never refers to it as a planet:

http://web.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/sedna/

Some more doses of reality for the Niburu crowd: You will note one of the graphics on Dr. Brown's page shows the orbit of Sedna with respect to the rest of the solar system. (Yawn). 'Scuse me... But it is just a tad boring seeing how its orbit never even crosses the orbit of Pluto much less any of the inner planets! :?

More grist for the "true believer" mill, however, might be found in the period of Sedna's orbit, which is quoted as 10,500 years. Now a crafty "true believer" would reach out and grab some unrelated numbers from other mythology and say something like "AH HA!!! We know that the shape of the Pyramids correspond to the shape of the constellation Orion as it looked precisely 10,500 years ago!" (Or some other such twisting of facts, as if they were relevant!)

How's that for a healthy dose of reality? ;)

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Mmmmm... I often have a scoop of Pralines-n-Cream on top of my PB&C!

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Postby Access Denied » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:59 pm

caleban wrote:We are in the Reality section in a thread titled "Planet x/Nibiru". So it looks like the "punishment" fits the "crime". How do we turn this "kennel" into something worth reading ?

Ha ha... sorry about that. Didn't mean to derail your guy's cleverly executed derailment. I thought maybe this topic was worthy of a thread of it's own and this section seemed like the closet fit. Thanks for the save guys… still learnin’

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Postby ryguy » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:00 pm

You Can Call Me Ray wrote:Let me attempt some twisted "true believer" logic here:

OK, so can you PROVE TO ME that palm trees can NOT grow in Antarctica? I mean, it COULD be possible! (But I won't even estimate a probability) :)


[sarcasm]

Typical DEBUNKER argument! I knew a guy, who knew a guy, who knew a guy, who know the insider friend of a top secret scientist who worked in the Arctic, who was outside and took a picture of the clear blue sky outside his Arctic lab one day.

The photo is below....you can CLEARLY see the palm trees outside his Arctic lab. Now if a PHOTO doesn't convince you tireless debunkers....nothing will.

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Postby Zep Tepi » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:42 pm

Arctic Palm trees eh?

We've been contacted by an "insider" (inside a warm coat presumably) who provided the following pictorial evidence and commentary pertaining to the reality of arctic palm trees. I don't know about you, but I'm convinced! The guy was an insider, after all...

Exhibit 1

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Ice Station Arctic Ali - so named after the famous breed of alligator known to swim in the arctic ocean close to the station. If you look closely, you will see evidence of the extremely rare arctic mole in the foreground. Ice Station Ali is home to seventeen researchers from around the world and their mission is a closely guarded secret, although it is rumoured to involve secret nazi underground bases and aliens from the Betelgeuse system.

Exhibit 2

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Ice Station Freezmabuttoff - Russian research facility close to the north pole,staffed solely by ex soviet era scientists upset at the fall of communism in Russia. Current research unknown but the grapevine tells us they think they have found Atlantis under the arctic ice. They tried to disguise the facility with fake palm trees made out of whalebone but they aren't fooling us.
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Postby You Can Call Me Ray » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:12 pm

:lol: 8)

What's better than your favorite ice cream cone? Why, a steaming hot bowl of sarcasm, of course! :P

Thanks for the laughs, gents.
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Postby caleban » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:26 am

Thanks for the laughs, gents.


Agreed. But the humor is not totally off the mark depending on where we
go with this. There is a thermal aspect there that may be the death of
Nibiru, palm trees or not.

Challenge accepted!!!


Slow down Ray. Before we choose weapons and pace off against
Nibiru, we need to know if we are using Flintlocks, Swords, or
Spitballs. Also, since we have more or less established our position
as total skeptics, how would we attract the "believer" crowd ?

Easy ! Use the skepticism to our advantage. Lets argue what
we as Skeptics would need to see in order to find Nibiru a plausible
proposition. Which means hold off on the Kuiper Belt Objects till
we logically get there.

Warning ! This might have some curious fallout. If our arguments
are really good, how long would it take for that information to "seed"
out to the "believers" and come back at us with a new, improved, Nibiru ?

I. Nibiru Model version 1.0.1 (The Budweiser Silver Bullet?)

Ok, here is my first stab at a plausible Nibiru. From red-shift data on
a new, brightening star, we determine that it is approaching our own
sun. Basically, this would be the modern equivalent of the Classic
"When Worlds Collide" Based upon the 1933 novel by Edwin Balmer
"When Worlds Collide" was adapted to film in 1951. (Both are good
entertainment even today)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... renow31-20

Compared to the present planet X myths, this would be the ultimate Nibiru
experiance. Although improbable, I think it is a possible Nibiru model.
Unfortunately, it has serious implications well beyond the x-myths, and
if the approach was close, it would be catastrophic to the solar system,
not just us'ens on the third rock. The real downside for the Nibiru folk
would be loss of the "repetitive" nature of the event. This "bullet" star
would most likely be a "one-time" thing.
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Postby caleban » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:53 am

There is an Easter Egg coded in version 1.0.1 so that we can tell
if our version comes back at us. (Smirk)
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Postby Access Denied » Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:06 am

Wow, that was quick. ;)

[note the date below]

I give you Eta Carinae 2.0:

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New Risk to Earth Found in Supernova Explosions
posted: 08 January 2008 06:27 am ET
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0 ... rinae.html

Fortunately, Eta Carinae is far away, at least 7,500 light-years from Earth. If it explodes, most of its energy will be scattered or absorbed in the vast emptiness of space. It also happens to be tilted about 45 degrees from the line of sight to Earth, so any type of gamma-ray burst, a high-energy outburst expected with this star's eventual eruption, would miss the Earth. Cosmic rays would be diffused by magnetic fields, and most of the damaging light would not affect life on Earth.

I’m confused… so dees this mean I don’t need to worry about Mutant Polar Palm Trees (MPPT) and Planet N+1?

[where N = number of planets currently recognized by the IAU]
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Postby caleban » Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:19 am

I give you Eta Carinae 2.0


While Eta Carinae 2.0 may seem to be a plausible model for
Nibiru, it disqualifies because IT IS REAL. I mean the scientific
community is all over this thing and no self-respecting camera
shaker can ever compete with Hubble. Not to mention the
speculating destroying potential effects of the next issue of
Discovery or Scientific American.

Nibiru (Eta Carinae 2.0)would be under constant threat from the
"high and mighty scientists" (copyright ITF ?) with their lack of concern
for the valuable contribution to doom myths being made here.
The final nail in the coffin is that it would be real work just to keep
up with Eta Carinae, much less stay ahead with speculation.

Never mind that it may have already exploded and we are just waiting
for the shock wave to get here. And then if there were no drastic effects,
we will need another Nibiru model anyway. If you followed
that logic, you are in the right place !

If not, then you need to be very worried about Mutant Polar Palm Trees. HeHe

where N = number of planets currently recognized by the IAU


Excellent factoid ! Even Nibiru will have to meet the current definition of
a planet. I had not though of that. I bet the Nibiru folks haven't either !
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