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Faster than Light Speed!

Postby Illudium Q-36 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:10 pm

This is the big news of the moment, of course it's not confirmed but if it does get confirmation then WOW! I'm not sure what to add except I would like this to be true.

The CERN press release.

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressRel ... t-15017484

Puzzling results from Cern, home of the Large Hadron Collider, have confounded physicists because subatomic particles seem to have beaten the speed of light.

Neutrinos sent through the ground from Cern toward the Gran Sasso laboratory 732km away in Italy seemed to show up a tiny fraction of a second early.

The result - which threatens to upend a century of physics - were put online for scrutiny by other scientists.

In the meantime, the group says it is being very cautious about its claims.


Here is Brian Cox particle physicist and cult tv haircut with some further information.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15034852


You can watch the CERN webcast of the press conference here at 16:00 CEST time
http://webcast.cern.ch/
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Re: Faster than Light Speed!

Postby Zep Tepi » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:44 am

While this is a fantastic story, I feel that when all is said and done, the results will not be confirmed and some error in measurement will be discovered.

It won't stop fringe "scientists" from speculating like crazy, mind.
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Re: Faster than Light Speed!

Postby Illudium Q-36 » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:34 pm

I tend to agree with you that at the end of the day it will probably come down to systematic error but there is a part of me that would like it to be true, and it just may be too, we wont know for a while though I'm guessing.
If anyone has a spare two hours and missed it the first time here is the link to the recorded version of the live webcast in the OP.
http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1384486

They do cover a lot of the potential errors, they do seem to have their bases covered it's now up to others to replicate or debunk so to speak.
It's definitely interesting.
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Re: Faster than Light Speed!

Postby RICH-ENGLAND » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:53 am

apparently, its proof of god according to this guy...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html

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Re: Faster than Light Speed!

Postby Illudium Q-36 » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:59 am

Hah, best get in early with stupid claims.

I like this one. Neutiono's show climate change isn't real.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203388804576612620828387968.html#articleTabs%3Darticle

I also had a chuckle at this one if it was just for the abstract. http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.2832
Can apparent superluminal neutrino speeds be explained as a quantum weak measurement?

Abstract: Probably not.


They are under way running more tests now, I get a feeling that the news tests might not get the same readings and normality will be restored.
There have been a couple of papers released too that have good arguments as to why they where wrong, the best of these being the Cohen, Sheldon paper.
http://arxiv.org/abs/1109.6562
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Re: Faster than Light Speed!

Postby Illudium Q-36 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:56 pm

New results in and Nuetrinos are still faster than light.

Fresh results from the OPERA collaboration once more confirm its previous confirmation of the faster than light neutrinos indicated by MINOS. The new findings, available here, also further confirm a particular scenario: The neutrinos do not travel with superluminal velocity all the way. They only ‘jump’ a small initial distance shorter than 20 meters, after which they settle back and travel as usual with speeds below that of the speed of light. This initial jump would occur at speeds that are more than ten times the speed of light, perhaps even millions of times the speed of light.

http://www.science20.com/alpha_meme/ope ... umps-84774

Here is the updated paper.
http://arxiv.org/abs/1109.4897
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