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Music as it should be

Postby Chorlton » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:37 pm

For some of our Younger members
Gaze in wonder at a real pro
THATS MUSIC !!!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1riNxnMtMkE

Remember this is live too ! No ferking lip syncing here.

Oasis ? they dont even rate.
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Re: Music as it should be

Postby mojo » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:40 pm

Chorlton wrote:For some of our Younger members
Gaze in wonder at a real pro
THATS MUSIC !!!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1riNxnMtMkE

Remember this is live too ! No ferking lip syncing here.

Oasis ? they dont even rate.


as much as i love frampton......can i just say......one of the few guitarists that ever made me say "holy s^~t".

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=TjbyI_817F8

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qe50BjAt ... re=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=bVnRBL0q2 ... re=related

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Re: Music as it should be

Postby Chorlton » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:32 pm

Did you never see the Legend, Max Merrit do one of his noted 5 minute lead breaks?
Or a little known guitarist from Perth called Dennis James? Even Billy Thorpe was a bit s^~t hot after a few beers.
And Max's drummer, old Stewy Spears, Long white hair and matching beard. he must have been 60 odd in the 70's when I saw him.
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Re: Music as it should be

Postby mojo » Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:06 am

haha, yes i was lucky enpough to have seen max merrit live...great show, and billy thorpe too. by faer one of the best live guitarist ive seen though would be Kevin Borich, amazing dude.
its refreshing to see live music making a comeback in pubs and clubs atm instead of all the doof doof techno junk.
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Re: Music as it should be

Postby Access Denied » Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:46 pm

mojo wrote:one of the few guitarists that ever made me say "holy s^~t"

Shred this…

George Lynch - Mr. Scary [Studio]



Chorlton wrote:Gaze in wonder at a real pro

"Frampton Comes Alive" is one of the best live recordings of all time... perfectly engineered.

Chorlton wrote:THATS MUSIC !!!

A trip down guitar memory lane…

George Lynch - Voodoo Chile [GOOD]



Stevie Ray Vaughan - Voodoo Chile [BETTER]



Jimi Hendrix - Voodoo Chile [BEST]



Chorlton wrote:Even Billy Thorpe was a bit s^~t hot after a few beers.

Ha ha… works for me too.

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Re: Music as it should be

Postby Chorlton » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:27 am

This will cause a stir.
I actually saw Hendrix live and it was a total mess. A noise. I just stood there and thought "whats all the fuss about"?.
In my opinion both Clapton and Page were streets ahead of him at the time, cleaner and far more disciplined. I was never impressed or even liked Hendrix music.
He's also credited with developing the technique of feedback, yet by the time he came along Steve Marriot, Pete Townsend, Ray Davies and Eric Clapton had been using it very effectively for quite a time. The air of wonderment about someone also increases when they die and Hendrix became a part of that wonderment. His studio stuff was OK I suppose, but live?, I just thought it was a noisy untidy mess.

With respect to live music. The situation in a lot of pubs in the UK now is dire. So many bands are prepared to play for free anywhere just to get experience and exposure, and many pubs dont care as long as the pub is full and selling beer. So we get 16 year olds, who just blast up the volume and hammer out chords (well I think thats what they are) The vocals cant be heard or are heard as simply another part of the noise. Fortunately there are some pubs that discriminate and require at least a modicum of musicianship. But with the UK pub licencing laws its hard for a decent band to get a gig and be paid for it. Im glad Im well out of it.
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Re: Music as it should be

Postby Access Denied » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:57 pm

Chorlton wrote:This will cause a stir.

Nah, you’re just being honest…

Chorlton wrote:I actually saw Hendrix live and it was a total mess. A noise. I just stood there and thought "whats all the fuss about"?.

The drugs? Like you had to be on them to “appreciate” it? :)

Chorlton wrote:In my opinion both Clapton and Page were streets ahead of him at the time, cleaner and far more disciplined. I was never impressed or even liked Hendrix music.

To be honest I’m not all that impressed by Clapton’s early stuff… maybe a little too derivative of American blues although definitely more disciplined than Hendrix. Page, although a master of the riff, some of his solos were umm… a little out there. :)

[I want to say painful but I'm trying to be nice]

Chorlton wrote:He's also credited with developing the technique of feedback, yet by the time he came along Steve Marriot, Pete Townsend, Ray Davies and Eric Clapton had been using it very effectively for quite a time.

You could be right but he certainly brought it to everyone’s attention by combining it with the tremolo bar and other effects in umm… creative new ways. :)

I don’t know how accurate this is but here’s what wiki says about his rise to fame in the UK…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Hendrix

Early in 1966 at the Cheetah Club on West 21st Street, Linda Keith, Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards's girlfriend, befriended Hendrix and recommended him to Stones manager Andrew Loog Oldham and producer Seymour Stein. Neither man took a liking to Hendrix's music, however, and they both passed. She then referred him to Chas Chandler, who was ending his tenure as bassist in The Animals and looking for talent to manage and produce. Chandler was enamored with the song "Hey Joe" and was convinced that he could create a hit single with the right artist.

Impressed with Hendrix's version, Chandler brought him to London and signed him to a management and production contract with himself and ex-Animals manager Michael Jeffery. Chandler then helped Hendrix form a new band, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, with guitarist-turned-bassist Noel Redding and drummer Mitch Mitchell, both English musicians. Shortly before the Experience was formed, Chandler introduced Hendrix to Pete Townshend and to Eric Clapton, who had only recently helped put together Cream. At Chandler's request, Cream let Hendrix join them on stage for a jam on the song Killing Floor. Hendrix and Clapton remained friends up until Hendrix's death.

[snip]

After his enthusiastically received performance at France's No.1 venue, the Olympia Theatre in Paris on the Johnny Hallyday tour, an onstage jam with Cream, a showcase gig at the newly-opened, pop-celebrity oriented nightclub Bag O'Nails and the all important appearances on the top UK TV pop shows "Ready, Steady, Go" and the BBC's "Top Of The Pops", word of Hendrix spread throughout the London music community in late 1966. His showmanship and virtuosity made instant fans of reigning guitar heroes Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck, as well as Brian Jones and members of The Beatles and The Who, whose managers signed Hendrix to their new record label, Track Records.

Jeff Beck probably deserves some of the credit too.

Chorlton wrote:The air of wonderment about someone also increases when they die and Hendrix became a part of that wonderment.

Oh definitely… dying was the best thing that ever happened to his career. :) Same thing with Randy Rhoads who Mojo mentioned… he became an instant legend.

Chorlton wrote:His studio stuff was OK I suppose, but live?, I just thought it was a noisy untidy mess.

I’m not a huge Hendrix fan but I think he wrote some great tunes (besides “Voodoo Chile”, “Little Wing” is probably my favorite) and he was definitely an influence on a lot of guitarists. Too bad he pissed his life away on drugs and alcohol… like Jim Morrison to name a few.

Chorlton wrote:With respect to live music. The situation in a lot of pubs in the UK now is dire. So many bands are prepared to play for free anywhere just to get experience and exposure, and many pubs dont care as long as the pub is full and selling beer.

Believe it or not there’s actually some clubs here that are pay to play…

The real truth behind pay to play!
http://www.aandronline.com/reading-room/payto_play.html
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Re: Music as it should be

Postby Chorlton » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:04 am

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Chorlton wrote:With respect to live music. The situation in a lot of pubs in the UK now is dire. So many bands are prepared to play for free anywhere just to get experience and exposure, and many pubs dont care as long as the pub is full and selling beer.


Believe it or not there’s actually some clubs here that are pay to play…

I wasnt talking about Clubs. I was talking about Pubs. Clubs in the UK wont put a band on unless they are known or are bloody good. Once they have decided to book them they then decide wether to pay the band or the band takes a 'door split' with the club taking a percentage then also making money from the booze. There are some clubs that will saimply say. 'You put someone on the door and charge what you want, we get the money from Booze sales'
Pubs are a different matter, Most UK pubs now wont pay more than £120-£150. A busy pubs logic is that on Friday and Saturday nights, they get pretty full anyway, so why pay big money for people who arent really listening to the band when there are many bands that will play for nothing, for the exposure.
Still, we gave one country pub in Hampshire a BIG shock when we booked an allegedly little known band there one night a few years back. The boss was a bit curious when roadies rolled up and set the band gear up, then a few minutes before the band was due to start, in walks the lads from Status Quo and do a stonking gig. You could see the mobiles going mad as people were calling their friends but by the time most of them arrived, the gig was over.
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Re: Music as it should be

Postby torbjon » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:58 am

wannabes, the lot of 'em.

Fancy pickin' don't make you cool.

BEING cool is what makes you cool.

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Re: Music as it should be

Postby torbjon » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:03 am

And then there's Doc... I love Doc. Doc blows the doors offa alla them other other bozos... with his eyes closed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYKzXUwmm3I
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Re: Music as it should be

Postby torbjon » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:20 am

and let's face it, Nobody is more Real than Woody's kid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g266Uwp6ZnI

And no, if I put alla that in one post you'd never have clicked the links *pokes*. It's Chit Chat. Besides, I'm on my way to Clearly Discerning Reality

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Re: Music as it should be

Postby Access Denied » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:58 am

Chorlton wrote:I wasnt talking about Clubs. I was talking about Pubs.

Right… good luck finding a pub (bar) around here that still has live music. Most have gone to disco (DJ) or karaoke…

[gags]

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Re: Music as it should be

Postby Chorlton » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:47 am

torbjon wrote:and let's face it, Nobody is more Real than Woody's kid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g266Uwp6ZnI
And no, if I put alla that in one post you'd never have clicked the links *pokes*. It's Chit Chat. Besides, I'm on my way to Clearly Discerning Reality
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Torb, I LOVE your sense of humour. Johny Cash......??
You'll be saying Elvis next. (what a joke HE was)
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Re: Music as it should be

Postby torbjon » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:23 pm

What a minute... that Wasn't Elvis? Sure looked like him to me...

This is probably more the type of, um, 'music', yer on about:

(live)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzf3mzOeD10
(studio)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7dR8-3Nc0M

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Re: Music as it should be

Postby Smersh » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:44 pm

Here''s Johnny Cash's final music video before he sadly passed. His superb (in my opinion) cover of the Nine Inch Nails song.

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