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Doomsday scenario?

Postby gunter » Sun May 02, 2010 4:12 pm

Since RU doesn't have a forum devoted to environment and ecology I'll post this here.

The 'drill, baby, drill' folks have given us the ultimate ecological disaster- millions of gallons of their cherished vile crud pissing into the Gulf of Mexico in a virtual Niagara of of poisonous destruction. Hundreds of miles of fragile estuaries and beaches relentlessly deluged in a swamp of despoliation. And there is no stopping it. It will continue unabated for months despite the best efforts of industry and government to shut it down. This a great wound in the gut of the nation- and all brought about by an über greedy corporate cabal and the need of all the little men to fuel their farting motor cars. This is nothing less than ecological Armageddon. Before my eyes I see the banshees, the screeching Palin-klowns of the world... drill, baby, drill. ...and I am depressed. Depressed that the nation has caved in to their worship of material progress and corporate profit in total disregard for the ethical imperative of preserving the Earth for our children.
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Re: Doomsday scenario?

Postby gunter » Sun May 02, 2010 6:29 pm

The most recent estimates, confirmed by Ken Salazar this morning, are that the spill is pumping out between 1 and 2 million gallons a day and is getting worse. I calculate that that probably amounts to an Exxon Valdez per week and it will probably continue for months. I believe the Gulf Stream will inevitably channel the oil up the Eastern Atlantic coast destroying most of the beachfront in America- and possibly even Britain. This is an unprecedented historical catastrophe courtesy of the Bushist 'drill baby drill' fools.

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Re: Doomsday scenario?

Postby Chorlton » Sun May 02, 2010 7:16 pm

All you need is a couple of storms and it will break the lot up.
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Re: Doomsday scenario?

Postby gunter » Sun May 02, 2010 7:34 pm

Not that simple. This is Armageddon stuff. The first corporate casualty will be 'not to big to fail' British Petroleum , itself. That company will not survive this. This disaster is bigger than Chernobyl- big enough to drive a stake through the heart of the Empire.
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Re: Doomsday scenario?

Postby Chorlton » Sun May 02, 2010 7:42 pm

Nahh. That stuff looks like relatively light crude. Storms will break it up.

Years back there was a tanker that dropped tons of very heavy crude off the Suffolk coast. That stuff was evil because it was so thick and heavy. It actually sank to the seabed and got washed ashore as huge great chunks and beds of the stuff.
I remember spending a day on the beach helping to clear it up, lifting huge chunks like cow pats into plastic bags.
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Re: Doomsday scenario?

Postby gunter » Sun May 02, 2010 7:52 pm

On the contrary- it's heavy crude. And it readily mixes with water. The worst of the worst nightmare scenarios. The US can not survive without its coasts. And I have the sinking feeling that these types of disasters do not occur as as isolated events. Call me Chicken Little but I feel it in my bones.
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Re: Doomsday scenario?

Postby Chorlton » Sun May 02, 2010 7:57 pm

gunter wrote:On the contrary- it's heavy crude. And it readily mixes with water. The worst of the worst nightmare scenarios. The US can not survive without its coasts. And I have the sinking feeling that these types of disasters do not occur as as isolated events. Call me Chicken Little but I feel it in my bones.


Who's Chicken little? Another of your rounders players like Yogi Bear ?
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Re: Doomsday scenario?

Postby gunter » Sun May 02, 2010 8:02 pm

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Re: Doomsday scenario?

Postby Chorlton » Sun May 02, 2010 8:08 pm

Still makes me laugh, Men playing rounders.
Ah well, Only to be expected from somewhere that cant play Football.

Rumour has it that Hull City will start playing rounders next year ! 8)
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Re: Doomsday scenario?

Postby Zep Tepi » Sun May 02, 2010 8:23 pm

They might as well, it can't be any worse than what happened this season... :cry:

Anyway, the Gulf oil spill does look like a very nasty one, with no respite for the next 6 to 8 days, apparently.
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Re: Doomsday scenario?

Postby Crackajack » Sun May 02, 2010 10:27 pm

Here's the spill history to date. Let's see where BP ends up on the scale.

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Position Ship name Year Location Spill Size(tonnes)

1 Atlantic Empress 1979 Off Tobago, West Indies 287,000
2 ABT Summer 1991 700 nautical miles off Angola 260,000
3 Castillo de Bellver 1983 Off Saldanha Bay, South Africa 252,000
4 Amoco Cadiz 1978 Off Brittany, France 223,000
5 Haven 1991 Genoa, Italy 144,000
6 Odyssey 1988 700 nautical miles off Nova Scotia, Canada 132,000
7 Torrey Canyon 1967 Scilly Isles, UK 119,000
8 Sea Star 1972 Gulf of Oman 115,000
9 Irenes Serenade 1980 Navarino Bay, Greece 100,000
10 Urquiola 1976 La Coruna, Spain 100,000
11 Hawaiian Patriot 1977 300 nautical miles off Honolulu 95,000
12 Independenta 1979 Bosphorus, Turkey 95,000
13 Jakob Maersk 1975 Oporto, Portugal 88,000
14 Braer 1993 Shetland Islands, UK 85,000
15 Khark 5 1989 120 nautical miles off Atlantic coast of Morocco 80,000
16 Aegean Sea 1992 La Coruna, Spain 74,000
17 Sea Empress 1996 Milford Haven, UK 72,000
18 Katina P 1992 Off Maputo, Mozambique 72,000
19 Nova 1985 Off Kharg Island, Gulf of Iran 70,000
20 Prestige* 2002 Off the Spanish coast 63,000*
35 Exxon Valdez 1989 Prince William Sound, Alaska, USA 37,000


Thousands are involved in the clean up. I'm currently negotiating to get approx 300 to 400 hazwoper (hazardous waste operations and emergency response) trained personnel mobilized out of Texas across to La. This will indeed go on for months and is a tragic disaster regardless of scale.

(sorry, could not get the graphic to fit and the list formatted, but you get the picture)
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Re: Doomsday scenario?

Postby egg » Mon May 03, 2010 12:12 am

gunter wrote:On the contrary- it's heavy crude. And it readily mixes with water. The worst of the worst nightmare scenarios. The US can not survive without its coasts. And I have the sinking feeling that these types of disasters do not occur as as isolated events. Call me Chicken Little but I feel it in my bones.


So, you expect more oil spills?
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Re: Doomsday scenario?

Postby gunter » Mon May 03, 2010 12:53 am

I don't know exactly. Just a feeling of foreboding. But that may just be my nature.
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