ryguy wrote:Man...you guys are really dating yourselves ffs...
**Ryan jumps back in his car and cranks the pounding rap music to ear-shattering levels as he drives away...**
I take it you're both single?
Anything else you need, please give me a yell.
Never come across this one before. A few things I can tell you now
before my battery runs out though. Sounds like it would've been a 10
inch, running at 33 1/3. The dates don't quite add up. Astronomy
Domine was released on Piper, 1967. Ummagumma's live portion was
recorded in 1969 and released later that year, Astronomy Domine had
been a part of the band's live set for a couple of years by that stage.
And the lack of lyrics worries me too.
I'll do a little more research at Dorothy's when I can plug in (at the
library right now) but I'm currently very sceptical. I've got an early
demo recording of Interstellar Overdrive, and that was the first
recording session to my knowledge, which didn't include Astronomy Domine.
Thinking things over at lunch, not to mention a few afternoon drinks
at home while listening to old rockabilly tunes, I've had quite a few
A 10 inch running at 33 1/3? Not come across many of those. If it were
truly a demo copy then the usual quality control issues we're used to
may not apply. Grooves could be crammed together as much as they like.
If it were a single sided demo pressing it's longevity wouldn't be
much of an issue either. I remember reading a DJ who used to try out
his own dance tunes in a set, and he said the test pressings wouldn't
be playable after half a dozen times.
But a big one has been nagging at me. He says it had the little hole
in it, implying 33 1/3. But the distinction between a 45 meant for a
jukebox, and LP meant for home seems to be only North American. As far
as Australian and (most importantly here) British releases were
concerned, they all had a small hole.
Which implies the post comes from somebody in the US or Canada, who
was expecting the format of the disc to be different. That leaves us
with two options; the disc made its way across the Atlantic somehow,
or this was a North American demo release. The former is barely
possible, and the latter beggars belief. Floyd were thoroughly
launched in the UK on a UK label. The first US releases were official
ones, no demo stuff ever got pressed there.
OK, that's some ramblings about the actual disc. Not very focussed but
I'm sure you get the idea. Now to the tune itself.
Astronomy Domine was one of their earliest tracks, played at UFO back
in the old days and all. According to Wikipedia it was recorded 11-13
April in 1967, those famous sessions wherein Paul McCartney heard them
and warned the rest of the band they were being overtaken. Much of the
material was recorded in only a few takes and there isn't much
significant stuff from this era which hasn't seen the light of day.
Which brings me to the thought I had a couple of hours back. It's long
(some 20 minutes apparently), instrumental and probably very spacy. Is
this perhaps Interstellar Overdrive? There are a few alternate
versions of this available, a couple on the Piper 40th anniversary
release, and the 16 minute version they did for Tonight Let's All Make
Love I London, which I have.
On the other hand, this person seems pretty insistent it's Astronomy
Domine, and the recording of Interstellar Overdrive which was done for
Ummagumma has never been released, so there's probably no confusion
there. While rather psychedelic they're not similar enough to be mixed
Basically, what I'm coming down to is this; not only have I never
heard of this but I seriously doubt the veracity of this claim.
There's a lot of stuff which doesn't add up, and the fact that he
keeps tying Astronomy Domine in to the release of Ummagumma implies to
me he's not that well versed in Floyd's discography. There are too
many inconsistencies here.
A long jam of Astronomy Domine? Quite possible. But without the
lyrics? I think not, this was never intended as one of their pure
instrumentals, they had enough of those as it was. And if it was just
the musical backing, why press it? The song would have been woefully
incomplete and not something a record company would use as promotional
My scepticism has only increased over the course of the day. It
doesn't add up.
Hope this helps to shed some light....
Hey Nick,,,a standard 10" demo pressing at 33.3 was all the go in England back late 60's early 70's Slightly extended EP. I cant remember the companies doing them, (Norton comes to mind) though I believe there were a few about. P Floyd probably recorded their trip and pressed about 100 ( and took another 100) or so for a few quid to get their gig up and running. Fairly standard promo tool back then. Being probably unpublished tunes at the time, it wouldnt register as a marketed product. So you wont track it down too quick.
Hi Nick, the question and answer seem to be in the original question in that he 'learned 10 years later' what the song was. There are 100's of fans who might know, but did he ever actually get in touch with the band - management - record company with this poser. If it was a 'demo - NFD' it might well have been a track use to test out mobile recording vans. He didn't say if there was any 'bleed' of vocals, just no lyrics, this might have occurred if there was a straight feed from the 'live' desk to the OB Unit. (Deep Purple / Smoke On The Water dealt with such units). There has been rogue cuttings doing the rounds for years, but if this bloke is adamant it is what it is, then he should get to the source of creation and ask the band and management.Hi Nick, the question and answer seem to be in the original question in that he 'learned 10 years later' what the song was. There are 100's of fans who might know, but did he ever actually get in touch with the band - management - record company with this poser. If it was a 'demo - NFD' it might well have been a track use to test out mobile recording vans. He didn't say if there was any 'bleed' of vocals, just no lyrics, this might have occurred if there was a straight feed from the 'live' desk to the OB Unit. (Deep Purple / Smoke On The Water dealt with such units). There has been rogue cuttings doing the rounds for years, but if this bloke is adamant it is what it is, then he should get to the source of creation and ask the band and management.
Hey Nick I got this off The Biography of Pink Floyd
It might just be why the thing happened and not released
The group landed a recording contract with EMI in early 1967 and made the Top 20 with a brilliant debut single, "Arnold Layne," a sympathetic, comic vignette about a transvestite. The follow-up, the kaleidoscopic "See Emily Play," made the Top Ten. The debut album, The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, also released in 1967, may have been the greatest British psychedelic album other than Sgt. Pepper's. Dominated almost wholly by Barrett's songs, the album was a charming fun house of driving, mysterious rockers ("Lucifer Sam"); odd character sketches ("The Gnome"); childhood flashbacks ("Bike," "Matilda Mother"); and freakier pieces with lengthy instrumental passages ("Astronomy Domine," "Interstellar Overdrive," "Pow R Toch") that mapped out their fascination with space travel. The record was not only like no other at the time; it was like no other that Pink Floyd would make, colored as it was by a vision that was far more humorous, pop-friendly, and lighthearted than those of their subsequent epics.
The reason Pink Floyd never made a similar album was that Piper was the only one to be recorded under Barrett's leadership. Around mid-1967, the prodigy began showing increasingly alarming signs of mental instability. Barrett would go catatonic on-stage, playing music that had little to do with the material, or not playing at all. An American tour had to be cut short when he was barely able to function at all, let alone play the pop star game. Dependent upon Barrett for most of their vision and material, the rest of the group was nevertheless finding him impossible to work with, live or in the studio.
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About a little man, if I can
A gnome called Grimble Gromble
And little gnomes, live in their homes
Eating, sleeping, drinking their wine....
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