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Postby simonespeaks » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:11 pm

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Postby ryguy » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:24 am

You don't have to answer this if you don't want to - but was the breakdown related to Ufology? You might have told me that via email, but I think our exchanges were over a year ago and my memory is failing me tonight. :-)

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Postby RICH-ENGLAND » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:27 am

erm, it would be a bit silly of me to say welcome as you've been a member longer than i have, so instead i'll say hello and hope you're well.

thanks

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Re: NONE DARE CALL IT ( little ol' **me**!!!)

Postby simonespeaks » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:47 am

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Postby ryguy » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:20 am

Very happy to hear that you found your way back to a better place. Sounds like it was a major bout of depression, or as you said, PTSD.....that is very odd about the missing records. MKULTRA?? I can't tell if you're joking or being serious. :-)
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Postby simonespeaks » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:30 am

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Postby ryguy » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:33 am

That's pretty scary. It actually does fall in the time frame when those experiments were going on, but do you at least have any memories or records of having worked in a facility or in a position where such a thing could have happened? Or are all of your memories from that time in your life completely shot?
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Postby simonespeaks » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:10 am

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Re: NONE DARE CALL IT ( little ol' **me**!!!)

Postby Access Denied » Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:39 am

simonespeaks wrote:I learned from VA that I was supposed to have 2 DD214 records-of-service. The military whitheld my Nellis one, upon my discharge. Luckily, my second tour reflects Nellis data.

That doesn’t make any sense. What career field were you in during your second tour?

simonespeaks wrote:Another thing fascinating I found: The document was classified TS For Official Eyes Only.

No doubt a fake…


ETA: I replaced your avatar with a better copy from ChrLz than the one I found.
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Postby simonespeaks » Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:57 am

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Postby Access Denied » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:17 am

simonespeaks wrote:Access. I was in the comcenter for a short while; during my first enlistment, 1981-1984. I think the AFSC was called 291x0, it had since been changed somewhat. In (late 1982-to/or-1983) after I all the trouble was done and nothing bad became of me, my higher clearance was gone, I was assigned to 'services specialist' doing 'billeting', AFSC 611x0, <I think, I don't have my 214 in front of me. I --hope-- that "makes sense"? The problem is, everyone is asking me questions, without becoming familiarized with the story. I suppose there isn't an -adequete- A-to-Z sequence of those events available? Just ask away then. Whatever.
Well, I rienlisted and stayed in the service until 1988. During that second enlistment, I went to Oklahoma. A 214 is for --each-- enlistment. I was only given one for my second enlistment. There is small mention of my positions/achievements in it, re. my first enlistment. I don't know about you, but it was good enough for the Veteran's Administration.
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Both of my enlistments are on the same DD-214. Anyway, I see you're deleting your posts again and you edited the underlined above out and added this while I was working on my reply...

We are going at all this, from the outside in. This is because I have not been touted and established in the minds of the masses, by leading personalities in the saucer field, and Larry King Live and Coast To Coast. (And Ufo Magazine, and the research .orgs, (my incidents, not artwork) and.......(etc)

Well, if you want your story to be taken seriously by someone other than retail Ufology, a good place to start would be to provide us with a copy (in private if you prefer) of the DD-214 you have.

By the way, you can get a copy of your service records here...

http://www.archives.gov/veterans/

OK, I hit preview again and I see you added this now...

This site reminds me a --lot-- of ATS by the way. For some reason. People plunging headlong into stuff without looking at the immediate-previous links and threads.
I'm bored. I DON'T WANT to text on and on about my past. My heart is not in it. I just like loitering in chat forums low profile, with cute little remarks THATS ALL, now leave me the f---- alone. (Jeezuz f----.)
I think I'll go and see what Gary S. Bekkum is up to................(Snort! Snark!)

Umm, you deleted the "immediate-previous" links in your posts before this one.... how can they look at them now? Here’s one you posted…

http://www.ufoera.com/articles/us-deep- ... 11181.html

Preview again and you added this...

And by-the-way, I DON'T HAVE any answers or smoking gun evidence for your aliens in space ships from other planets ( SERPO) (or was that ALPO)? like that retarded video out of Turkey by the Ed Walters rerun turkeys. I'm itching to reinflict ATS, my fellow leftists might be getting overrun by Ayn Rand Libertarian red neck gun nut wing nuts. Chow.

Whatever... at this point I'm wondering if you simply made the story up because you wanted to be a part of Ufology. You know you still could be if you just came out and admitted it right? Might actually be good for you but don’t listen to me, ask your therapist...

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Postby simonespeaks » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:28 am

I have loads of foia and other documentation that i used to show ufologists a long time ago, and then they told me to basically shut up and go away, because it made them scared, I guess.
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Postby Access Denied » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:33 am

simonespeaks wrote:I have loads of foia and other documentation that i used to show ufologists a long time ago, and then they told me to basically shut up and go away, because it made them scared, I guess.

DD-214 or it didn't happen...
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Postby simonespeaks » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:45 am

I think I will utilize your gov documents link, and try to retrieve any/all old military records I don't have. It would be extremely interesting to see what they come up with, after all these years. It would be nice if my documentation trail isn't so incomplete.
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Postby Access Denied » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:06 am

simonespeaks wrote:I think I will utilize your gov documents link, and try to retrieve any/all old military records I don't have. It would be extremely interesting to see what they come up with, after all these years. It would be nice if my documentation trail isn't so incomplete.

And in the meantime?

If you don't have a scanner, simply take the DD-214 you do have to your nearest Fedex Office (formerly Kinkos) and you can scan and email it to us from there...

http://www.fedex.com/us/office/
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