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Postby James Carlson » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:49 pm

SM Coogan wrote:Hello James. Before you make up your mind on it all, Go and check out CTKA.
I'm going to go over everything on the CTKA site, but I went over some of it today just to take a general look-see at the whole thing, and it's (as I'm sure you know) very extensive. Left to my own methods, I'll likely start at the top and work my way down until I've covered it, but if you have any recommendations where to start -- I'm sure you realize most menu-driven websites aren't designed very well for someone who has more in mind than simple "browsing" -- that would probably be helpful. If not, I'll just start working my way through it, top to bottom. I will warn you: when it comes to crime and psychological divergence, I'm not easy to convince, but I will give it a thorough and fair shakedown (is there such a thing as a "fair shakedown"? perhaps read "extensive review" vice "shakedown" ... ) A very good case has been made for Oswald, and if you (or any of the authors/investigators you believe should be given some additional attention) want to bring in an additional shooting/shooter/offense, something more than mere motivation or the proof of possibilty needs to be covered. But I do promise that I'll examine in some detail whatever you suggest -- if you recommend the whole website, that's where I'll go.

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Re: Hit Piece on Gus Russo

Postby SM Coogan » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:08 am

http://www.ctka.net/abclies.html

This will help you out in as much as the ABC Jennings stuff goes and then find articles on Inside the Target Car.
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Re: Hit Piece on Gus Russo

Postby James Carlson » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:39 pm

That's my starting point then ... many thanks!
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Re: Hit Piece on Gus Russo

Postby SM Coogan » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:02 am

No hassles I have been enjoying your posts on a lot of other topics by the way JC.
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Re: Hit Piece on Gus Russo

Postby James Carlson » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:02 pm

Thank you. That's a nice thing to say, and I appreciate it, sincerely.

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Re: Hit Piece on Gus Russo

Postby Luck » Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:27 am

SM,
I enjoyed your first two articles on Icke, Jones, et al. I look forward to future installments of your series. The idea that conspiracies are used to downplay or discredit real issues and concerns is one that merits more discussion.

Ryan,
Nice article on Monsanto, by the way. I have felt for a long time that Monsanto would be the poster child for the big, evil multinational corporation.
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Re: Hit Piece on Gus Russo

Postby SM Coogan » Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:32 am

Luck wrote:SM,
I enjoyed your first two articles on Icke, Jones, et al. I look forward to future installments of your series. The idea that conspiracies are used to downplay or discredit real issues and concerns is one that merits more discussion.

Ryan,
Nice article on Monsanto, by the way. I have felt for a long time that Monsanto would be the poster child for the big, evil multinational corporation.


Hey thank's bud. It's a very sad state of affairs we have. I think there is very strong evidence now from Jim DiEugenio, Lisa Pease, Robin Ramsay, Greg Bishop, Mark Pilkington, Ryan, Steve and many, many others here that US intelligence has been involved in championing all manner of false conspiracies. From little green men to chemical weapons and assassination plots. A really interesting one is HAARP. I mean in all honesty, until I came across Ryans articles on the subject I thought it was largely a crock of s^~t. Why was that? Because Jones and other morons were talking about it. This is the point. If you hear Jones talk about say the Kennedy assassination, you would dismiss the idea. I'm sure heaps of people have. But say you hit CTKA and boom. Icke and Jones (and I steal a line from Jones) are the proverbial turds in the punch bowl. The punch is good, but with the turd in there no ones going to want to drink it.

If you liked my Icke-Jones piece you may well like my review of Jones at CTKA. As for RD's Monsanto piece its a cracker. Check out his ripping apart of Ventura's and Jones national security episode. Its a shame Ventura went this way his books. With Russell he's good beginners guide stuff. Without him Ventura is pretty rudderless.
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Re: Hit Piece on Gus Russo

Postby SM Coogan » Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:34 am

James Carlson wrote:That's my starting point then ... many thanks!


How much of the CTKA stuff you got through yet partner?
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Re: Hit Piece on Gus Russo

Postby ryguy » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:42 am

Luck wrote:Ryan,
Nice article on Monsanto, by the way. I have felt for a long time that Monsanto would be the poster child for the big, evil multinational corporation.


Thanks! It's a rather easy target - so it's not really fair. But I have to say if there is any corporation on the planet that deserves a good beating every now and then, it's Monsanto. I've never seen a more unethical company.

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Re: Hit Piece on Gus Russo

Postby James Carlson » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:00 am

SM Coogan wrote:
James Carlson wrote:That's my starting point then ... many thanks!


How much of the CTKA stuff you got through yet partner?

In all honesty, not as much as I would have liked. This is due mostly to a combination of Thanksgiving holiday, working out a fairly lengthy discussion of the religious character behind UFO claims, a really screwed up laptop, and some overtime conditions at work. I promise you, though, that my intentions are absolute, and I will definitely get to it before long -- I'm looking forward to it, in fact, and I do apologize for the delay; I just haven't had as much time as I would have liked.

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Re: Hit Piece on Gus Russo

Postby ryguy » Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:52 pm

James Carlson wrote:I promise you, though, that my intentions are absolute, and I will definitely get to it before long -- I'm looking forward to it, in fact, and I do apologize for the delay; I just haven't had as much time as I would have liked.

James


I can empathize on that one man...I wish there were far more hours in the day than there are. Far too many projects and too little time available...it really sucks.

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Re: Hit Piece on Gus Russo

Postby Luck » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:20 am

Seamus,
I did read your articles on AJ; what a piece of work! And his connection to Ron Paul certainly raised my eyebrows. I am involved slightly with the Occupy movement in my area, and you'd think Ron Paul was trying to co-opt the movement for the amount of people posting stupid crap about him in the facebook pages for our group. Oh, and just an FYI: Icke has jumped on the Occupy movement bandwagon as well. He has a couple of videos on youtube in case you are interested and hadn't known about it. He obviously wants to sell more books.

Ryan,
About Monsanto, I agree they deserve to be beat up most soundly. :roll: I just heard the other day that they have been suppressing critic's comments/research of the bovine growth hormone here in the U.S. I had just done some reading about milk coming from cows that were treated with the hormone and I pretty much decided to give up my dairy habit unless I buy organic. Yuck!
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Re: Hit Piece on Gus Russo

Postby SM Coogan » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:05 pm

Thank's luck. It's cool you dug the Jones piece. Most of the best conspiracy researchers by a country mile definitely come from the left of centre and/or there are a few genuinely independant Libertarian/conservative types. But as you know at the end of the day people either lean one way or another, in certain areas.

Thus make no mistake it really has been people to the left who have pioneered the rational conspiracy research stuff. Sadly, you will find a lot of right wing conspiracy kooks like Jones and others, willfully rip off stuff from leftists they would otherwise have called evil socialists and integrationists. Furthermore, I have no doubt that Jones and his ilk in the day would have thought Kennedy, King and other's were puppets of the United Nations.

Right wing, Libertarian stuff like Paul and Jones struggle in research simply because the right is notoriously anti intellectual, secondly uneducated to a greater degree. They have no conception of structural analysis, they hate paying taxes but want to nuke Chavez. Ron Paul wants to join you in occupy Wall Street but he want's to make you work for minimum wage or below and cut funding to schools.

Yeah, I'd be very wary of Paul and Jones trying to co-opt the occupy Wall Street movement myself. If Jones turns up get other protestors to tell him 'shut the F### up' or smash his Bull Horn and tell him to 'F### off' if he doesn't. A chant of "Alex Jones sucks" will ruin it for him if and when he turns up. People need to get militant and organised about such a thing. Ron Paul can piss of back to his tea party. That wash couldn't find Wall Street on a map. Those tea bag dimwits were funded by the Koch Brothers anyhow lol. What a bunch of 'cocks' lol.

As for James Carlson I'll be interested in what he's up to with that CTKA. I really admire a bloke with an open mind enough to give it a go. He has some pretty funny posts around here. I am finishing a piece for Ryan on the excrement surrounding her death and the BS conspiracy stuff out there. What's fascinating is that there may be a plausible conversation for some Hankey Pankey somewhere. But, the arguments for have been soooooo bad, the whole thing is a joke. If you don't watch E-Channel I wouldn't go near there even if it was dodgy.
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Re: Hit Piece on Gus Russo

Postby James Carlson » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:23 am

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Re: Hit Piece on Gus Russo

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