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"VIP" praises Ryan Dube's Serpo research, plus

Postby MikeJamieson » Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:45 pm

CORRECTION OF MISINFORMATION
My VIP was referring to Ryan Dube of Reality Uncovered, not Bill Ryan.


Roughly, there's a SERPO divide. In the pro-camp are Martinez, Bill Ryan, Rick Doty, Collins (to a point), and the bulk of folk on the Open Minds forum.


The anti-SERPO camp are primarily Steve Broadbent and Ryan Dube and others at Reality Uncovered. There has been a lot of nasty words and deeds between the two camps over the last several months.


Also at least one person in DIA named that my guess is that he is not the one behind SERPO.


Hence, I was wrong to think that Bill Ryan was endorsed by VIP, it was Ryan Dube.


Good thing I caught that late last nite.


Of course Robert Collins is a lunatic. He did not even check when von Neumann (1903 - 1957) died on that photo in p. 19 of his book. von Neumann had been dead 7 years in 1964. The details of the SERPO story are silly like a Grade B 1950's Sci Fi movie. No scientist would buy it. Whether there was such a project for real I have no idea.


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Postby MikeJamieson » Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:01 pm

Bill Ryan, in a response to Jack's update, reports that Ryan D. is an
advocate of the hollow earth theory. (News to me.) Anyway, that
certainly makes everything he says about Serpo suspect, right? :lol:

Of couse, I'm sure once everyone reads the article Bill linked, they
(the cc'd list of people on Jack's list) will be able to see something
about Bill Ryan's judgement.
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Postby ryguy » Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:33 pm

MikeJamieson wrote:Bill Ryan, in a response to Jack's update, reports that Ryan D. is an
advocate of the hollow earth theory. (News to me.) Anyway, that
certainly makes everything he says about Serpo suspect, right? :lol:

Of couse, I'm sure once everyone reads the article Bill linked, they
(the cc'd list of people on Jack's list) will be able to see something
about Bill Ryan's judgement.


I didn't realize writing a speculative article on a topic in order to get people thinking about alternative topics, makes one an advocate. Geez...I wonder what people are going to think about my next article on Native American witchcraft....maybe I'm actually a Native American witch? haha!

(I wonder what people would think about the fact that Bill Ryan believes that one of his past lives was as an alien? Oops...did I say that out loud?)

Bill could at least do me the favor of talking trash to my face instead of behind my back. Not that I blame him - I suppose after so many months of trying to "get in good" in the world of U.S. intelligence, to be somewhat slapped in the face by a "VIP" like that is probably very insulting and belittling - especially to a man with such self-importance.

While I appreciate the honor, and do have some idea who the "VIP" is - I could have done with (would have preferred) a private direct email with such a comment. Public commendations such as this encourage attacks by those who crave attention (especially if they dislike you to begin with).

If it is who I think it is, he's an extremely intelligent, well-spoken, level headed official who doesn't suffer fools (such as the pro-Serpo crowd) very easily. However I felt like a fool when talking with him privately - so his comment does suprise me.

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Postby MikeJamieson » Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:37 pm

Yes, the commendation was so public (including Jack's forum), Bill had
to come back with something. And, he did.......tying you in with the
Hollow Earth Myth (which has many variations, but generally involving
a hollowed out earth housing good (and advanced civilizations) and
inferior (and negative) ones.

I think it's pretty obvious who the VIP is. And, that person is a VIP, not
a wannabe one. (i.e in a position of real responsibility).

I don't think Sarfatti himself has been too interested in all this Serpo stuff.
He really didn't know about all the stuff going on so far as the surrounding
drama going on. Someone obviously had to give a brief history of that, and identify the "players" to him sometime late last night. I think he only perked
up yesterday with some interest because he saw Kit Green's and Hal Puthoff's names
in the 9 reports posted on the home page of this site.

I think everything related to Serpo will fade to dark. IOW, I don't think new
"revelations" (like photos, or team diaries, etc) will be forthcoming now.
If I'm right, this thing will be dropped by those promoting it. (There are
still a few doing so, right?)
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