dan wrote:And learning how to twist in the wind gracefully, is defintely a survival skill! Obviously I am still a novice.....
Well, all I can say is if you wanted a tough crowd, I know from experience you definitely came to the right place.
Tom
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dan wrote:And learning how to twist in the wind gracefully, is defintely a survival skill! Obviously I am still a novice.....
Mr Gowan's epiphanies appear logical to me.
Simple and elegant, also.
Where, if anywhere, are we going wrong?
Isn't it obvious? By not accepting Father Dan Smith as our personal savior and messiah! There can be no other conclusion (in Dan's own inflated mind).
Cult of BPWH... in all its fraudulent festooning!
This is my life, this Conch that envelops me, and I am the centre of gravity. I look behind, and see the past receding into some mysterious still point, beyond memory. I look ahead, down the future. That's not life's end, that still point: it's the culmination of my quest for understanding. This Conch, this cognitive spiral, is my intellectual life... as it appears to me in the present. The still point of the future is the unknown potential to which I aspire. A spire.
I breathe out.
I breathe in. Speck of dust I was, and shall be. I view the bottom of the black hole always and only from where I am. The phial of unknowing is forever. It is enough. (McKenzie 1996 p.107)
It reminded me of "ashes to ashes...dust to dust".
"The phial of unknowing is forever." Truer words were never spoken.
dan wrote:That is Johnâ€™s problem. He uses scientific terminology to make metaphysical assertions, without providing an alternative context or rational construct within which we might judge their validity or coherence.
dan wrote:The BPWH is a SYSTEM of truth claims that will either all hang together, or all fall apart. It claims to be self-contained, self-generating and wholly coherent to any rational mind.
dan wrote:Ultimately it describes and explains the world and our ultimate concerns to a degree that Science has never even pretended to aspire.
dan wrote:The Compromise of which I speak is the Cartesian Dichotomy between matter and spirit. That Dichotomy is the false foundation of the Modern worldview.
Serpentime wrote:dan wrote:That is Johnâ€™s problem. He uses scientific terminology to make metaphysical assertions, without providing an alternative context or rational construct within which we might judge their validity or coherence.
Dan,
If Mr. Gowan's Metaphysics do not flow strictly from Science - and I would like to hear Ray's opinion, also - what non-scientific "context" validates his "epiphany" of fractal energy and information to the point that you pronounce him "not plainly wrong"?
The connection between Information and Entropy is time and temporal causality. The time component is necessary to link each piece of information (each bit) into the "causal matrix" of matter. Time is the entropy drive of matter and information, and creates the causal linkage of matter's information matrix or historic causal domain. Each quantum bit of information is associated with a quantum bit or link of time (like a chain link), which integrates the information bit into the general causal matrix or information field of matter. Entropy is always associated with energy, in this case bound energy, so a quantum unit of time or temporal entropy can be associated with a quantum unit of energy as well as of information. The gravitational conversion of space and spatial entropy into time and temporal entropy reaches a natural limit in the "event horizon" of a black hole where g = c. The surface area of a black hole's event horizon is proportional to its entropy, in terms of time or information (theorem of Bekenstein and Hawking).
A famous connection between Entropy and Information is between Boltzmann's statistical thermodynamic entropy and Shannon's information entropy. The two are computed by the same mathematical formula and when calculated for the same degrees of freedom (the same variables) are equal. The connection between elemental time and information in our Tetrahedron Model applies equally to both types of entropy, satisfying the condition that Shannon (or Boltzmann) entropy is not associated with meaning or significance, which is context dependent. The meaning or significance of information, with which we are of course very much concerned, is a characteristic of higher levels of the natural hierarchy, including information in the sense of complex organizational states, such as the functioning human body or society. See: Scientific American Aug. 2003 p. 58-65 "Information in the Holographic Universe" by Jacob D. Bekenstein.
The Physics of Spirit
Spirit resides in the connections between things. Our sense of spirit is our sense of connection to the Universe. When the Universe consisted only of light (and symmetric particle-antiparticle pairs), this connection was complete. When this primordial symmetric state was broken by the asymmetric production of matter in the Creation Event, this universal connectivity was disrupted, and took a different form, retreating to the conserved charges of matter (including spin and gravitation), the symmetry debts of light, which constitute the information content of elementary particles and a "memory" of their symmetric origin. (See also: "The Time Train" which explores further aspects of the peculiar disconnection between matter and its entropy drive (time), and its conservation domain (historic spacetime).)
The information pathway is the story of spirit reestablishing its original universal connectivity within the realm of matter. In the process, spirit reveals the infinite variety of information and identity which existed as only a potential in the primordial symmetric state. The development of the information pathway to a total material expression of universal, physical connectivity would correspond to Chardin's notion of the "Omega Point", the physical expression of Divine Identity and unity, God's Kingdom made manifest, not only "Heaven on Earth", but Heaven throughout the material Universe.
dan wrote:Ray,
I'll be happy to read the pages of JG that you suggest, and get back to you with my comments.
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