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In my opinion Toon you really don't care about sharing or learning. No matter what someone shares or how they try and answer your questions you really don't care. You Toon have one goal to fulfill, that's to put them down and draw them into a war of words.
Just because you don't have a faith or belief system in certain areas doesn't mean others don't. You believe there was a crash at Roswell with ET's on board. Many people share your view, but many people don't. Can you prove that event happened?......NO! but you have faith and a belief that it did. Were you there to see,hear,smell and touch it, to know it as 100% fact?.....NO!
All you have is what you've been told, what has been handed down, things you've studied and researched. Are these people,books,articles, research somehow at a higher standard than ancient writings from hundred and thousands of years ago?.....NO! Just because something is ancient, does that somehow lower it to only a myth,fantasy or fairy tale? Were these people somehow less credible because this took place in ancient days?
Let's look into the future and thousands of years from now some of todays greatest works of the history of the twentieth and twenty first centuries are discovered. I can only wonder how many people would really believe it occurred as it was written in those books. Would it only be a legend,myth,fantasy or fairy tale in their eyes? Would some believe and have faith it was authentic without being there to see it for themselves?
As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene....No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life.
--Albert Einstein
A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic – on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg – or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God; or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.
--C.S. Lewis
I know men and I tell you that Jesus Christ is no mere man. Between Him and every other person in the world there is no possible term of comparison. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and I have founded empires. But on what did we rest the creation of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded His empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him.
–Napoleon
A man who was completely innocent, offered himself as a sacrifice for the good of others, including his enemies, and became the ransom of the world. It was a perfect act. --Mahatma Gandhi
Jesus of Nazareth, without money and arms, conquered more millions than Alexander the Great, Caesar, Mohammed, and Napoleon; without science and learning, he shed more light on things human and divine than all philosophers and scholars combined; without the eloquence of school, he spoke such words of life as were never spoken before or since, and produced effects which lie beyond the reach of orator or poet; without writing a single line, he set more pens in motion, and furnished themes for more sermons, orations, discussions, learned volumes, works of art, and songs of praise than the whole army of great men of ancient and modern times.
–Philip Schaff
I am an historian, I am not a believer, but I must confess as a historian that this penniless preacher from Nazareth is irrevocably the very center of history. Jesus Christ is easily the most dominant figure in all history.
--H.G. Wells
As the centuries pass, the evidence is accumulating that, measured by His effect on history, Jesus is the most influential life ever lived on this planet.
-- Historian Kenneth Scott Latourette
Socrates taught for 40 years, Plato for 50, Aristotle for 40, and Jesus for only 3. Yet the influence of Christ's 3-year ministry infinitely transcends the impact left by the combined 130 years of teaching from these men who were among the greatest philosophers of all antiquity.
–Unknown
I have read in Plato and Cicero sayings that are very wise and very beautiful; but I never read in either of them: "Come unto me all ye that labour and are heavy laden." --Augustine
I accept the resurrection of Easter Sunday not as an invention of the community of disciples, but as a historical event. If the resurrection of Jesus from the dead on that Easter Sunday were a public event which had been made known...not only to the 530 Jewish witnesses but to the entire population, all Jews would have become followers of Jesus.
--Pinchas Lapide, Orthodox Jewish scholar, Germany (born 1922)
If I might comprehend Jesus Christ, I could not believe on Him. He would be no greater than myself. Such is my consciousness of sin and inability that I must have a superhuman Saviour.
--Daniel Webster
People talk about imitating Christ, and imitate Him in the little trifling formal things, such as washing the feet, saying His prayer, and so on; but if anyone attempts the real imitation of Him, there are no bounds to the outcry with which the presumption of that person is condemned.
--Florence Nightingale
wetsystems wrote:If it's history that con-cords with the testimony of archaeology and other contemporaneous evidence and documentation I'd say it's worthy of consideration and study- not 'faith.'
The only 'quotes' contained in my post were quotes of my own words from previous writings.for every atheist quote you might put forth
I can't read Hebrew or Greek but if I could that would be the way to go.
wetsystems wrote:While I await a reply to this post, I realize that all sorts of Googling is going on to support various contentious replies. I'll note here this: Googling is not research, Ryan, regardless of how many google-quotes you may discover.
Ah to be back in 1968 when research was earned!
wetsystems wrote:I made the point a while back that Yeshua was not a Christian. Of course Ryan accused me of idiocy for that remark. hahahaha
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