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Chorlton wrote:Sorry but to me the Bible is simply a book, to base any assumptions or beliefs on a book is to me total lunacy. To also consider that millions if not billions of people lead their lives by that book I also find alarming.
Its simply a book with no more credibility in it than a book by, say Von Daniken
Sorry its my opinion.
Chorlton wrote:Sorry but to me the Bible is simply a book, to base any assumptions or beliefs on a book is to me total lunacy. To also consider that millions if not billions of people lead their lives by that book I also find alarming.
Chorlton wrote:Its simply a book with no more credibility in it than a book by, say Von Daniken
Chorlton wrote:"That may be true but can you deny it’s what some people need… "
Failing anything else..... no. but those people would follow and believe anything, anyone.
Its always puzzled me why people need a leader. 2000 years ago I can see why, they were downtrodden, dumped on at every turn, but now? Nope.
Its why I see no need for a monarchy or even a President, other than to use as a whipping boy when things go tits up.
"Not everyone wants to “be their own boss”… some are simply more comfortable with “following” somebody else’s “lead” and I don’t see anything wrong with following Jesus. "
I see it wrong that people should follow anyone, but I also see that some people have a need to do so.
Religion was, and still is used as a weapon and to control people.
How can a man like a Pope tell African catholics that Contraception is a sin?
And, on the same tack, if someone suggests or proposes anything related to the Bible, God or Jesus, the same controls be used as would be so with any claims. Provide proof. There is none.
I propose there is no God and will wheel out the old answers.
It is written that we are supposedly Gods children.
What parent would let his children suffer as our supposed God does?
ryguy wrote:And, on the same tack, if someone suggests or proposes anything related to the Bible, God or Jesus, the same controls be used as would be so with any claims. Provide proof. There is none.
Well...at least we have real scrolls with real writing on it. That's a heck of a lot more than the pieces of UFO that UFO/Alien believers don't have. At least it's something real to look at and debate.
ryguy wrote:For the sake of clarity, when it comes to my own personal beliefs, I only consider Jesus as "leader" in terms of leading by example. But leader is really a poor description of what he represents to millions and millions across the world.
Better words would be friend, supporter, encouragement, and a tour guide through an otherwise disrespectful, nasty, and cruel world.
ScaRZ wrote:The Shining One (Satan) tried to tempt Jesus into proving his faith. Never think you have to prove your faith to anyone.
ScaRZ wrote:Chorlton wrote:No one has to prove their faith to me.
Just the existance of God will do fine.
No man can.
That would come only from God drawing you first, then opening up your heart to understanding.
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