I’m going to tell the same old ATS story, with the difference of having all of the supporting proof positive evidence. I’ve been a member of ATS for years while restraining my self only to technical discussion about weaponry and aviation, nothing speculative, while staying away from conspiracy theories and politics.
With in the last two years I encountered a fundamental change in the conduct of ATS enforcers and how blatantly and regularly they disregard their own rules and regulations.
Identical patterns in thread after thread. Sock puppets “gang” up to form and shape the opinion while being covered by mid-level moderators and if that does not work, then saboteurs simply derail the topic thus forcing its closure.
When complaints are logged, higher level mods simply clean up and that’s it.
I was banned not for making outlandish stamens or misbehaving, but because ATS agenda is the exact opposite of my topics of interest.
I was not even given a reason for the banning, a moderator simply told to keep quite and that “I better learn how to let things lye”, and when I retorted with my intent of posting the entire chain of events on the conspiracy section of the site, with ALL of the supporting documents and correspondence, I was permanently banned with out an explanation.
Naturally I was given an “option” of filing a complaint, which I did, and as expected never received a response to. So the usual claim of “all the members has to do to get reinstated is to contacts us and will take it under consideration” is just a plain lie.
To be honest, everything happened just as I predicted. I have experience working with such “topics”, and that’s exactly why I had to be “put away”. At one point I worked for FOX networks, so I’m familiar with various tools of public opinion manipulation and enforcement.
I did do just a little digging around after my second site ban, and naturally found out that ATS is just a cookie cutter setup.
Apparently this has been known for years, here are a few links;http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.co ... ecret.htmlhttp://matrix50.blogspot.com/2006/03/ab ... posed.html
The question is just how much tax-free advertising revenue they are puling to keep the staff of enforcers and sock puppets. Just look at the site, it’s literally PEPPERED with ads from the F500 corps. Among others, Microsoft, Ford, Chevy, etc, placing advertising on a PRIVET site “hosted” by a few “friends”. Did anybody ever heard of ANY major company handing out its ad program to just a couple of “guys”?
How do those wire transfers are treated exactly?
How do they account for their revenues, taxes, staff, etc?
Where’s their IT department? How do they get paid?
Better yet, who exactly maintains their FLAG (aka data mining core) based data base, which is logged by the members them selves.
They secretly run public opinion polls and social-engineering tests on propaganda assimilation patterns.
Just think about it, what do you think they do with all that PRIVTE property (member imputed data), all while getting funded by MAJOR corporate sponsorship?
It’s a GOLD mine for public opinion strategy think tanks. Microsoft = MSNBC, a MAJOR player in the mass media game, and they are one of the heaviest sponsors.
Am I saying that ATS is a full blown cointel opp? Well that’s the point, it doesn’t have to be, because as we all know (and if don’t then should), private intel and think tank “groups” is what drives the data collection, processing, and strategy development.
So who do you think has the know how of organizing the “freefloater” ops? Staffing 20-somethings is not a problem, there’s a virtual warehouse of those guys that sit in their homes all day racking up payments for blog-flooding, it’s know as a fact. That issue was brought up in the political arena, where hired blog-moles were regularly inserted into the opposition. No difference here as well. ATS is a very clearly agenda driven, opinion molding, data collection/mining opp, there’s just no other way around it, and now they are moving into the media arena full steam ahead. Again remember that ATS is officially self described as a group of “friends” with a “hobby”. What a wonderful way to organize a financially isolated entity with a built in tax shelter with zero accountability! Not to mention that the only official apparatus of ATS is a group of highly engaged attorneys, and I just have to wonder how they get paid for their services.
Ask your selves, which organizations in USA are free from taxation while actually operating as a profit opp? Don’t forget that Bill aka SkepticOverlord openly stated that they just pocket the profits from their MERCHANDISING and add placement revenue, while operating with complete impunity. Who can do that so openly in US? ATS is clearly not a religious organization, so what is left?
Every time I challenged enforcers/sock puppets to an open discussion moderated under agreed upon guidelines, they have refused, and that’s not done unless there’s a system in place.
Naturally I have all of my ATS data backed up (optical), so I’m always able to back up what I say with proof positive evidence.
For example, how I bas banned with out explanation for the first time, with out ANY provocation, all while a group of FOUR enforcers (moderators) were going through my posts and deleting/”editing” them. Such “clean up” effort went as far as THREE years back in my posts.
It was a set up, involving a classic use of a planted instigator, a previously unseen member who was supposedly registered in 2007, and then during one of the discussions his registration date all the sudden changed to 2004, and his ATS “points” shut up like he just robbed a bank.
Apparently this happens often on ATS, and these “ghost” members keep popping up all over the place. Any ATS member that’s been there for a while knows that separate areas of the forums are rather closely, and members have long established relationships, so it’s very apparent when a fresh “crew” comes in and “cleans house”.
As many here already know, the best example of such discords have been made public by John Leer, and after watching his 4 hour expose, I can firmly confirm that EVERYTHING he said about ATS conduct is absolutely correct, I went through the same process, and unlike John I have ALL of the supporting evidence.
Personally I invested many years of constructive contribution to ATS forums, and it is sad to see your efforts being simply erased, but in all honesty I should have knowing better. I was hoping that even in the pre-determined environment an independent community could take root, and that is exactly why I have been tracking ATS patterns this entire time, and that’s exactly why I focused on the topics that I did.
So here it is, take it as you will, feel free to ask questions, and make up your own mind.