ryguy wrote:If you have a copy, or know where to get a copy that doesn't cost a fortune, please let me know. I haven't been able to find one other than a $50 copy on Ebay
IsaacKoi wrote:From various posts/articles by you that I can remember reading, I infer that your main areas of interest relates to Doty, Project Serpo and related issues. I'm not sure what line you take on Doty and Co e.g. (a) simply in it for a laugh and/or the money, or (b) part of an orchestrated educational/disinformation programme. If the latter, then I'd recommend putting Vallee's Messengers of Deception at the top of your Christmas ufological wish-list for Santa (assuming that you have already got "Project Beta" and some of the other more directly relevant material).
simonespeaks wrote:I REJECT the notion that Vallee could be part of what I'll call, spook'y'ufology. Look at how far out of the mainstream he got exiled. and for so long. To me, he is nothing but a brilliant scientist, and nice guy.
Access Denied wrote:Vallée believes the aliens are using psychotronic (mid control) technology on us… ‘nuff said.
ryguy wrote:I haven't read anything where he refers specifically to psychotronic technology though?
Vallée proposes that there is a genuine UFO phenomenon, partly associated with a form of non-human consciousness that manipulates space and time. The phenomenon has been active throughout human history, and seems to masquerade in various forms to different cultures. In his opinion, the intelligence behind the phenomenon attempts social manipulation by using deception on the humans with whom they interact.
Vallée also proposes that a secondary aspect of the UFO phenomenon involves human manipulation by humans. Witnesses of UFO phenomena undergo a manipulative and staged spectacle, meant to alter their belief system, and eventually, influence human society by suggesting alien intervention from outer space. The ultimate motivation for this deception is probably a projected major change of human society, the breaking down of old belief systems and the implementation of new ones. Vallée cannot say who or what is behind this scheme, only that the evidence, if carefully analysed, suggests an underlying plan for the deception of mankind by means of psychotronic technology. It is highly unlikely that governments actually conceal alien evidence, as the popular myth suggests. Rather, it is much more likely that that is exactly what the manipulators want us to believe. Vallée feels the entire subject of UFOs is mystified by charlatans and science fiction. He advocates a stronger and more serious involvement of science in the UFO research and debate. Only this can reveal the true nature of the UFO phenomenon.
Access Denied wrote:He advocates a stronger and more serious involvement of science in the UFO research and debate. Only this can reveal the true nature of the UFO phenomenon.
Gary wrote:Gentlemen: In this thread you almost (briefly) glimpse the shadow of the reality behind the phenomena!
Any significant deviation of human behavior introduced by a 'foreign' intelligence should produce patterns which may be studied, without direct knowledge of the causal agent.
GigaShadow wrote: I am a very critical skeptic of everything even though I experienced aliens and craft up close. My deceased mother used to tell me I don't beleive in anything. She was so right, I don't believe in this reality and its deception upon our consciouness.
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