Rintendo wrote:the philosophers of old with their pupils gathered around hanging upon their every word
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Ray
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Rintendo wrote:the philosophers of old with their pupils gathered around hanging upon their every word
OK. I can understand that. As Afterburn says in his 20 point Concordance- Mood is the spring from which Creation flows. And Mood itself is the matrix of all emotion. But... we can not, just for that reason, analyze that mood by use of its qualities. Analysis requires dispassionate Reason first of all. Where Reason leaves of we're left at bounds of the Absurd and can proceed no further in parsing rational truth. That's the point when we leave the world of Philosophy and enter the vapors of Metaphysics where poetry and speculation- and, yes- emotion rule the day. Bracket one when considering the other or the result is bemused confusion. That's all I'm sayin'.Rintendo wrote:gunter wrote:No-one ever said that clarity was easy. Time to define terms. What then is 'emotion' in your estimation?
Connection.
"It's hard for me to articulate how this feels -- when you've lived your whole life in a body and having everybody relate to you as something you don't feel," Bono, 41,told PEOPLE back in December. "When that finally gets righted, it's just amazing. I finally get to live my life the way I've always wanted to."
You Can Call Me Ray wrote:Well, IF God exists, I guess even God makes mistakes... at least that would be how Chaz Bono feels:
It's official: Chaz Bono gets legal name (and gender) change"It's hard for me to articulate how this feels -- when you've lived your whole life in a body and having everybody relate to you as something you don't feel," Bono, 41,told PEOPLE back in December. "When that finally gets righted, it's just amazing. I finally get to live my life the way I've always wanted to."
Good for her....errrr.....him!![]()
Ray
But if god is love (good) and god is all- then where does hate (evil) come from? If we want to avoid the Christian dualism between good and evil we have to place god above it or beyond it- or subsumptive of it. It's not necessary to shuck dualism. If it's satisfying to you then go with it. But in dialectical process reality is understood not in thesis or antithesis but rather in synthesis, i.e. unity. On the other hand I don't really care what you choose to believe. Like I said- if you're happy with it stay with it.Moreover, some might argue that if G-D is indeed love then the only path by which to discover G-D is like to like.
gunter wrote:But if god is love (good) and god is all- then where does hate (evil) come from?
egg wrote:gunter wrote:But if god is love (good) and god is all- then where does hate (evil) come from?
Assuming there is a God, either God isn't "good" (or, only good) or God is not alone. Meaning our creator has a rival, and not some angelic upstart, either. A real one.
ryguy wrote:If you were the creator of everything, why would you create "evil"...? Any ideas?
You Can Call Me Ray wrote:ryguy wrote:others might say that all existence (which would include existence at the level of any God) is an eternal struggle between extremes.
You cannot define light without simultaneously defining dark.
Then again, there is the other idea expressed by some of us earlier: GOOD and EVIL simply flow, naturally, out of statements of intention. I've made this claim before in other threads long ago: We are living in a time where we will transition from the Age of Information to the Age of Intention.
Ray
gunter wrote:But if god is love (good) and god is all- then where does hate (evil) come from? If we want to avoid the Christian dualism between good and evil we have to place god above it or beyond it- or subsumptive of it. It's not necessary to shuck dualism. If it's satisfying to you then go with it. But in dialectical process reality is understood not in thesis or antithesis but rather in synthesis, i.e. unity. On the other hand I don't really care what you choose to believe. Like I said- if you're happy with it stay with it.Moreover, some might argue that if G-D is indeed love then the only path by which to discover G-D is like to like.
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