Dark Matters Radio-June 23rd

[murnut]

Well...I don't think every poster who posts at amkon are worthless scum, and there certainly are trolls, and idiots but there are also many decent folk.

It is free speech and sometimes it is not pretty, but it serves a purpose for me to be able to respond to the cowards at OMF without being censored.

Although there maybe a lot of garbage at Amkon, there is also the occasional pearl.

But I concede it is not for everyone

[Access Denied]

But I concede it is not for everyone

True, free speech comes with responsibility… it’s for those who won’t take any.

Just like Theilmann and those who enable him…

[Access Denied]

Gunter should be ashamed - and the person who wrote it should be even more ashamed.

They are one and the same, Kim posted it there and then cross-posted it here.

But, as Steve pointed out, that’s not going to fly…

You can't get away with crap like that here Kim. You better explain yourself otherwise you're gone - for the last time.

Just because they are OK with it doesn’t absolve of him of his responsibility here.

For what it's worth - "Gunter" fits in well there.

Agreed, but I also agree with Andy that they’re not all “worthless scum”… some are just guilty by association.


ETA: It occurs to me some of those folks may be unaware we have an unmoderated “OM Flames” forum in the Latrine for just this kind of thing.

[gunter]

Zep Tepi wrote:You can't get away with crap like that here Kim. You better explain yourself otherwise you're gone - for the last time.

From Boycotteverthing's Borg thread at Amkon 6/20/10

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnonProphetOrg View Post
how is this movie reference any different to the three stooges one



as always Om has two rule sets, one for those who question the special sauce story, and one for those trying to prop its corpse up.........

Murnut replies: Exactly...

Fore is a disgusting piece of kiss ass and a force for evil in the universe

OMF is evil...it is where hoaxes, deceptions, misinformation, and those possessed by evil alien princesses can go and find a platform to infect.


I stand opposed to this Evil and the lies this Evil spreads.

I'm just getting started.

I'm going to NYC this week to video interview Clay, Shawn , Richard and Morningstar whether they want to or not.

Dylan is welcome to meet up with me if he wants...or anyone else in the area...pm me tonight.

It won't be tomorrow or Friday

Let's see how these supposed men of honor act.......

I bet they run like cowards...but I hope I'm wrong

Get Ready...I'm coming

That's just the first of his threats. It continues in several further posts. He even asks poster MissA to join him and Jack in the escapade. I rather think the guy's about to get his ass kicked by an old football player.

[gunter]

and then-http://amkon.net/notice-you-are-hereby-t21760p190.html

Default Re: Notice! You are hereby terminated by the Borg
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnonProphetOrg View Post
I wish i could be there in person Bro
But my thoughts go with you, good luck and stay safe

Replies Murnut:

Are you kidding me?

Can you imagine if they take a swing at me while the camera is rolling.

I'm hoping to have Dylan along as well taping from a far.

They want to beat me up..I'll let them....on video.

They can run but they can't hide....lol

I know where Richard lives..I know Where Clay and Shawn live, and where Clay works

Clay, Shawn, Richard are now public figures with no right to privacy while in public.

(Morningstar...note to self...got to find his address)

They don't want to talk...fine....I want that on video.

I'll show the world just what kind of men these cowards really are.

Get ready Mur paparazzi

[gunter]

And then... from here:http://amkon.net/notice-you-are-hereby-t21760p193.html

Murnut:

Want to maybe meet in NYC next week?

I think we might have an interesting time.

Jack might come

MissA:

Me?

Sounds fun. Where in the city?

Pam:

My guess is a bar in Chelsea?

Lex:

ZING

Any further questions, Steve?

[jeddyhi]

That's just the first of his threats. It continues in several further posts. He even asks poster MissA to join him and Jack in the escapade. I rather think the guy's about to get his ass kicked by an old football player.

A threat of what? An interview?

Come on, Kim, you are smarter than this. From what I read Andy sounded concerned that they may not take to kindly to his presence. Where does Andy threaten anyone in a physical sense?

You are being purposely obtuse to create drama.

[gunter]

I understand the concept of circling the wagons, John. But the threat is very much implied- as the expectation of ensuing violence. What is this guy now- jesus?

They can run but they can't hide....lol

I know where Richard lives..I know Where Clay and Shawn live, and where Clay works. ...(Morningstar...note to self...got to find his address)

[MikeJamieson]

I think this sounds like a wasted and even toxic trip. (Don't forget anger is one of the "five poisons".) Now, as soon as these subjects say: "Leave me alone....I don't want to talk to you", Andy has to do as requested. Otherwise, he CAN be arrested, whether in public or not. Don't forget, once a person says "leave me alone...i don't want to talk to you" and you fail to do so, that person then can have you arrested for that.

This case is now over. If the authorities want to prosecute this guy for impersonation, then they will do so....or, not. Just ask yourself, insofar as what you may be planning related to all this, is what I'm doing "good" and "healthy" for me?

Anger's overrated btw and gets too much regard as a "justified" response. Anger naturally rises and falls, but we sure love misuing the "mind" (which is simply rising and falling of thoughts) to keep it alive and fixed in place. That part is not the "natural" order of things.

[gunter]

Points well taken, as always, Mike. The anger is not mine- it belongs to others. To end every post with a big, bolded, capped and colored "Where's your DD-214??" is not the method of a deliberative researcher but rather of a vindictive vigilante. That's all I'm saying.

[murnut]

Actually it says "Where is the DD-214?"

And yes...I'm going to NYC....but it is not being done out of anger.

It is being done because people have questions and they deserve answers.

Richard, Clay and Shawn have gone silent.

Richard Clay and Shawn are going to go on the record, one way or another.

I'm a Quaker and a registered conscientious objector so I reject violence.

But I don't see why attempting to ask them questions on the street is a problem for anyone.

But I'm willing to listen to reasons why this is a bad idea...as long as it does not come from a troll

[gunter]

Actually it says "Where is the DD-214?"

And the distinction is exactly what?

And yes...I'm going to NYC....but it is not being done out of anger.

It is indeed obsessive anger. Where it comes from I leave to Mike J to comment. He's much adept more at that than me

It is being done because people have questions and they deserve answers.

Deserve? OK Father Torquemada.

Richard, Clay and Shawn have gone silent.

As is their right. The time of the breaking of their silence resides with them alone.

Richard Clay and Shawn are going to go on the record, one way or another.

Only if they so choose. (see above)

I'm a Quaker and a registered conscientious objector so I reject violence.

Then it's strange that you'd be so supportive of those who choose to kill others in deference to the Empire. But maybe I fail to understand the principles of The Friends.

But I don't see why attempting to ask them questions on the street is a problem for anyone.

But I'm willing to listen to reasons why this is a bad idea...as long as it does not come from a troll

See above and pass the popcorn. As it turns out, the only 'troll' here is you.

[murnut]

If you oppose what I'm doing...I'm more convinced it is the correct thing to do.

Thanks

[gunter]

I don't oppose it. I'm much looking forward to you making a complete ass of yourself...yet again.

[murnut]

What was the first time I made an ass of myself?

I remember...it was believing that you stood for anything of value

You don't

You are the the biggest reason of what is wrong with amkon and a habitual liar, promising that you would leave repeatedly. You are still there.

But Toon the troll is irrelevant to me

Good bye Kim