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ScaRZ wrote:If there were no heaven and no hell,just death and nothing. Then that means all would one day end......"Including the little aliens." Everything as seen is in a form of decay or death.
No matter how long the little aliens kept themselves or us in the mix,one day it's going to end. It could go on for many years,but it will finally come to complete decay. Re-vamping something time and time again I believe will come at a price of shortening of time.
AussieMike wrote:So out of interest if after you die instead of the angels and harps, you wake up on a structured craft and are offered the same deal, that your soul/experience set and memorys can be transfered to a new optimised clone body, using advanced medical transplant technology. that once done you can repeat the process as needed and continue your existance ad infinitum ,free to explore the universe/heavens as it suits you ?
Would you accept the offer if it was the only way to eternal life ? or reject it.
Ok so theres no angels in flowing robes, but its got to beat Anubis weighing your heart against a feather yeah ?
I would reject it and take "Nothing". If there was no heaven and no hell and I chose "Nothing" it would be nothing. I wouldn't be I......I doesn't exist.
AussieMike wrote:so you belive in reincarnation when you die rather than the traditional depiction of "heaven" harps and all ?
ScaRZ wrote:AussieMike wrote:so you belive in reincarnation when you die rather than the traditional depiction of "heaven" harps and all ?
No! you misunderstood. I don't go the reincarnation route. I believe in a heaven but not the way we have been brainwashed from the time we were very young......"I call fairy tales". I believe most people view it through the eyes of art work created by men/women. I also don't picture Angels (Messengers) as the vast majority do. I see them as spirit men (Spiritual Bodied) creations of The LORD.
ScaRZ wrote:The thing about the "Image" or painting can be a big problem in my eyes. It doesn't matter if I had been there and walked with Jesus Christ when he was on this earth,painted,drew a picture,or if it had been possible to take a photo of him.
That artwork or photo is not him,only an image of him. If I or anyone else took that image and began to bow to it,worship,serve,or pray to it......"It now has become an idol."
Very same thing goes for The Shroud of Turin. If it was proven without a doubt that it was the covering on Jesus Christ and people began to fall down and worship it in any way,this also has become an idol.
ScaRZ wrote:This reminds me some of a question my Grandfather ask me a few years before he died.
This has nothing to do with my faith,but was a question my Grandfather ask me many years ago and it has stuck with me through time. He and I use to get into some deep conversations and one day he ask me this very question below. He told me I had to answer it before I left......"It was around an hour I had to think and answer his question." NO! ducking around it,it was one answer or the other.
His question..........If you had a choice right this moment in time and had to choose one answer or the other which would you choose...... To die and there be......"Nothing",and when I say nothing I mean nothing?
Or would you make the choice to die and be reborn over and over for eternity?
If you choose to die and be reborn you will live and die as every [Human] who has ever lived. You will be every male and every female human....."No animals or creatures of any kind,only human. You will know every pleasure as well as every horror. You will live and die every death of infants,children,teens,adults and the very old.
One day you will live the life of your mother,father,sister,brother,
children........Everybody!!! Everyone who has ever and will ever live and die a life.
I will tell you it took me a long time before I gave him an answer. I ask him many questions and then thought about it before I told him I would choose to die and there be nothing.
When my Grandfather ask me this question,my first thought was would it be better to be conscience of something,feel something as nothing at all.
I ask my Grandfather if I would be able to remember anything from my past lives and he said no.
I then got to thinking about [all humans] and the lives and deaths of each of them. That is in my opinion impossible for the mind to comprehend. Every single person that has and will live and die. Whether the life is no more than a twinkling of an eye or you live hundreds of years........You would live them all.
I would experience all the greatness,friendship and love that has dwelt in the hearts.
I got to thinking how I would live the lives of all the famous people down through history. But 99.99% of lives would be the names that are never remembered and have no fame attached to them. Every possible way of death I would partake of. I not only would be on the receiving end, but also be the one to administer it through countless lives.
The thing is there would never be a way to change anything. Your next life and death would only be a random thing. It's all set in stone and every choice that has been made will be made......"Over and Over" through all eternity." You will live and die every life and it will be as it was.
What comes around,goes around....."Around and around inside a circle for ever and ever." You would be inside a circle and there would never be any way to penetrate and move outside the circle. Trapped like a rat inside a maze with no exit.
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