JonCurcio wrote:Leaving the forum wasn't something I felt good about. Being banned on top of it was an added intentional sting that further justified my reason for leaving. In spite of all that has happened, it's amazing that some hold such a blind loyalty to a forum that manipulates the truth and its members. The explanations given by the staff for the installation of Mouse Trace were unacceptable to me, and they were overdue. If this were the first instance of the staff behaving in what I see as a deceptive and insulting manner, then I would not have reacted as I did. What I have seen in my time on OMF is a staff who on one hand encourages open-minded and civil discussion, while behind the scenes works to steer the direction of that discussion and hands out bans to anyone who questions suspicious activity.
I had no agenda at OMF other than to become further informed and offer my opinions on issues that interested me. After the source A affair, where I saw members either leave or be banned and in my opinion, a hoax clearly exposed, I became disillusioned with a place I once enjoyed. I wasn't bitter, as some were, because I felt that I had not been a victim as they had. I felt that if one were to obey the terms of service, that there was no need to worry about bans or moderator action. It's true that I was only banned after I had left, and if I had continued a civil discussion on this Mouse Trace issue I may have narrowly preserved my membership.
What I've come to see at this point, however, is that there seems to be no end to the spin, in the face of any evidence presented. I'm grateful that others on forums such as RU are willing to take the time to expose these lies and manipulations. When these lies relate to promoting a hoax or agenda, it bothers me, but I've come to expect such in the UFO field. It's hard for me to see truth anymore in cases when so many have been clearly exposed as frauds. I've accepted this, but I cannot accept being spied on and lied to directly by *controllers* of a forum that should be based on transparency, truth, and *open-minded* discussion.
The answers being given by the OMF staff were an insult to me given the evidence shown, and were a final straw in my decision to leave. I'm not comfortable being a member of such a group under the conditions that have become more and more clear over the years. It got to a point where I was certain there could be no trust, and that isn't the kind of company I can tolerate keeping.
murnut wrote:See...it is a cult.
Some are obviously brainwashed.
The real questions to why mouse trace was installed in the first place have never been answered.
And why call them private messages if they are not private?
And why ban folks for asking legitimate questions?
Those who are interested in finding the truth of this situation for themselves would do well to read through this very revealing thread: http://www.smallheathalliance.com/read.php?1,609319
Read more: http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index. ... z1TRbd4nl4
If an Admin on a forum wanted to read your PM's then they could.
If I was so inclined I could read any PM I wanted to on here, I could print them out and plaster them on billboards across the city if I wanted to. It's my server and I have access to all data on it, and I don't need to install any tracking software to do it.
I don't do it, firstly because you're probably just moaning about moderation policy, secondly because I would have to be fecking bored to waste my time, and thirdly and using any website is based on trust and I wouldn't want to betray that.
If you don't trust a website owner to keep the information you provide private, then you shouldn't use that website, be it SHA, Paypal, Google, or your Bank.
And back to the initial subject, that sort of software is generally used to see what people are interested in, but don't click on, as people tend to hover over an interesting link before clicking it.
jeddyhi wrote: ... Truth be known, none of us here know for a fact that Mouse Trace was being used to strictly have a peek at PMs. All we have done is demonstrated that that is what it could be used for.
jeddyhi wrote:It would be the only known way for a proboards admin to view them.
jeddyhi wrote:And the sorry excuses for why it was installed in the first place is what casts that long shadow of suspicion on OM. That and their continued need to deflect and divert instead of giving honest and straightforward answers to reasonable questions.
murnut wrote: ... And why ban folks for asking legitimate questions?
To clarify, Bewildered's account was suspended, this was done because in the past we have had people delete their posting history, which can destroy the continuity of existing threads. Bewildered has been notified via email that we can and will reinstate his account upon request.
And for the record, joncurcio deleted his own account and was not banned by any member of staff.
JonCurcio wrote:And for the record, joncurcio deleted his own account and was not banned by any member of staff.
And for the record, lies like this are exactly why I deleted my account.
After you deleted your account and left, I bet the next time you went to the forum as a non registered visitor it said....."Sorry, you have been banned from this forum"
After you left, one of them probably banned your last IP address. Banning a member that left on their own is a low thing to do and bad PR actually......another screw up they are trying to bury, hide, deny and disavow.
Thats par for the course lol.
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