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[ScaRZ]

What's all this about Zep, can you explain it?


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That makes you the only one out of the wide-ranging group of anonymous
“informers” that do so.

If you have something important to say, why not say it? Why resort to
sending a bunch of emails to people who are likely to believe anything
you
say in the first place? If you want a true test of your story, send it
to
people who are not so easily fooled. Yes, you can take that as a
challenge.



Stephen Broadbent

REALITY uncovered

[Zep Tepi]

Sure ScaRZ, but what exactly do you want explaining?

Cheers,
Zep

[Zep Tepi]

Haha, I've just read over at OM, my oh my oh my. They really are getting desperate.

How 'clever' of Admin to selectively quote from my emails over the weekend. He asked me a specific question, to which I had already supplied a specific answer.

I had already told them I sometimes use Read Notify to track emails that I have sent!

They are proving once and for all exactly what lengths they will sink to in an attempt to portray us as the bad guys. Well, it won't work. I will provide all of the relevant emails here so you can see for yourselves what those guys are trying to do.

Cheers,
Zep

[ScaRZ]

Haha, I've just read over at OM, my oh my oh my. They really are getting desperate.

How 'clever' of Admin to selectively quote from my emails over the weekend. He asked me a specific question, to which I had already supplied a specific answer.

I had already told them I sometimes use Read Notify to track emails that I have sent!

They are proving once and for all exactly what lengths they will sink to in an attempt to portray us as the bad guys. Well, it won't work. I will provide all of the relevant emails here so you can see for yourselves what those guys are trying to do.

Cheers,
Zep

Thanks Zep, that's really what I wanted.

[ryguy]

How 'clever' of Admin to selectively quote from my emails over the weekend. He asked me a specific question, to which I had already supplied a specific answer.

Not really clever - just very stupid....because once the entire exchange is revealed, as was the case in the "billion dollar email" expose - it shows him to be a complete fool. I wonder why he keeps doing the same "out of context" quotes - doesn't he realize people will eventually read the context and realize how moronic he is being?

Old habits die hard I guess...

Hey Zep - it's pretty cool to see you were able to get a response back from "the clues", as an update even... LOL

-Ry

[Zep Tepi]

If anyone wants proof of the dishonesty of the OM mods, here you have it. If anyone wants to see the original email exchanges in their original format, pm me with your request and I will be happy to forward all of the relevant emails to you.

Today, Admin posted a number of emails that I had sent to 'The Clues' and other recipients, to the Seinu forum at the OM site. His post here implies that I am a liar, and Jakereason implies the same thing in another thread here

Here is the original email sent by Lucianarchy on 09th October:

From: lucianarchy [mailto:lucianarchy@yahoo.com]
Sent: 09 October 2006 10:08
To: Shawnna Connolly; john hicks; leeandsally; 'Mc'; Stephen Broadbent
Cc: 'Richard Davis'; ryguy@realityuncovered.com; 'Christopher Iversen'; TheSurferDoc@yahoo.com; 'Marilyn'; 'Parks Brian'; ohio52@navyseals.com; jerrypippin@sbcglobal.net; b_m_roy@hotmail.com; '>Victor Martinez'; 'Bill Ryan'; 'Larry Dicken'; cgreen@med.wayne.edu; 'Hidden Hand'; Gene.Loscowski@gmail.com; PMcGovernnts@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: New RU Release #9: "Project SERPO" was a viral marketing campaign!

So that just leaves Ryan Dube and Stephen Broadbent.

I'll ask again, are any of the RU guys/gals able to confirm or deny that they are using an "EMSVR" 'script' in any of their internet correspondences?


If yes, for what purpose is it being deployed?

My answer sent the same day:

What a bunch of scare-mongering blithering idiots you are. I sometimes use readnotify.com when sending out emails. By appending ‘readnotify.com’ to the end of an email address, the outgoing email is routed through readnotify’s servers before being sent on to the recipient. I then receive a detailed delivery notification report, more detailed than the standard report that most email clients provide. There is nothing sinister whatsoever with the service, but it doesn’t surprise me in the least that you people would try to insinuate otherwise. Pathetic.

Thanks to the services of readnotify, absolute proof regarding the source of the SEINU/TC emails will be provided later today.


From ReadNotify.com:

ReadNotify will endeavour to provide the following in your tracking reports:

Date and time opened
Location of recipient (per their ISP city /town)
Map of location (available on paid subscriptions)
Recipients IP address
Apparent email address of opening (if available)
Referrer details (ie; if accessed via web mail etc)
URL clicks
How long the email was read for
How many times your email was opened
If your email was forwarded, or opened on a different computer

All messages sent via ReadNotify benefit from our SPF compliant and Sender-ID compliant mail servers. This confirms safe transmission of your messages, and also enables us to report delivery status to you (including: bounce-backs, delays and success notifications). Delivery information is listed in your Personal Tracking Page.

Try hovering your mouse over the sections in our Live Sample Receipt for more information.

Note: ReadNotify.com does not use or contain any sp‌y-ware, ma‌l-ware, nor vi‌rues, it is not ill‌egal to use, and does not breach any pri‌vacy reg‌ulations in any countries.

One other service they provide is a “Legal proof of opening receipt”, very handy indeed…

Steve

[Note: The absolute proof regarding the source of Seinu/TC emails will be provided asap!]

There were other emails that went before this one, and more that came after. I will be showing those in another post -they serve to demonstrate what these people will do when they see they cannot counter our arguments using fair and balanced means.

The dishonest one replied to my email with the following:

From: lucianarchy [mailto:lucianarchy@yahoo.com]
Sent: 09 October 2006 14:28
To: Stephen Broadbent; 'Shawnna Connolly'; 'john hicks'; 'leeandsally'; 'Mc'
Cc: 'Richard Davis'; ryguy@realityuncovered.com; 'Christopher Iversen'; TheSurferDoc@yahoo.com; 'Marilyn'; 'Parks Brian'; ohio52@navyseals.com; jerrypippin@sbcglobal.net; b_m_roy@hotmail.com; '>Victor Martinez'; 'Bill Ryan'; 'Larry Dicken'; cgreen@med.wayne.edu; 'Hidden Hand'; Gene.Loscowski@gmail.com; PMcGovernnts@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: New RU Release #9: "Project SERPO" was a viral marketing campaign!

"scaremongering"? That's your choice of word. lol! Not mine.

But the questions was - the EMSVR script, Stephen - do you use that?

I was a little exasperated to see that he hadn't got the point yet. My reply:

Me personally? No I do not. However, I would suggest you read my previous reply again to receive an answer to the question you originally asked. Once you’ve read it, apply some critical thinking and you just may surprise yourself.

You will note the Sock Puppeteer has neglected to include these points in his own post at OM. Anyone with even the slightest amount of researching ability would be able to find out what 'EMSVR' actually means. It is not a script that a particular user (in this case me) can use, but the actual server that is used by Read Notify to reroute the messages through.

Those guys are grasping at straws and don't even realise how desperate and ridiculous they appear in their attempts to "get one over on us". You have to ask yourself one question: Why?

Cheers,
Zep

[Shawnna]

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[Zep Tepi]

A further example, not that it is needed, of the lies the OM mods and their friends frequently resort to.

From JakeReason's post here

I learned what TC has shown here today. That he uses spyware in emails and outright denies he does.

Two false statements in just one sentence. 1. Read Notify is NOT spyware and 2. How can I deny something I haven't even been asked in the first place?!

From Read Notify [http://www.readnotify.com/readnotify/about.asp] and already posted above:
Note: ReadNotify.com does not use or contain any spy-ware, mal-ware, nor virues, it is not illegal to use, and does not breach any privacy regulations in any countries.

Is that clear enough do you think? ReadNotify is even used by JR's OWN ISP as a free add-on to their users! It is used by many organisations worldwide, including hospitals, universities, banks, etc. These guys will try and use absolutely anything to get us to stop what we are doing. They can't fight the claims made on this site in a fair and balanced way so they continually lie and simply make stuff up in the hope that they will be listened to. Bill Ryan is no better. In true Victor-esque fashion he also latches on to the false spyware claim in the following email (No, he didn't send it to anyone at RU but we have our friends in the loop, people like ourselves who have had enough of the games and the nonsense.)

From: Bill Ryan [mailto:bill.ryan@virgin.net]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:12 PM
To: 'Marilyn'
Cc: 'Richard Davis'; 'Christopher Iversen'; TheSurferDoc@yahoo.com; 'Parks Brian'; ohio52@navyseals.com; jerrypippin@sbcglobal.net; b_m_roy@hotmail.com; '>Victor Martinez'; 'Larry Dicken'; Green, Christopher; Gene.Loscowski@gmail.com; PMcGovernnts@yahoo.com; lucianarchy; 'john hicks'; 'leeandsally'; 'Mc'
Subject: Tracking software in use: how READNOTIFY works


Hi, Marilyn, everyone on this list:

If you do a search in your headers for “readnotify”, you’ll find that Marilyn’s e-mail address – alone – has “readnotify.com” appended to it, which started on 7 October, I believe with Steve’s message cc’d to this list (can’t check for sure, because I’ve deleted it). This has continued with every mail replied to, and so it continues.

This is in the HEADER – not in the cc list which is immediately visible.

Look and see in your past messages in recent days – not just from RU, but from each other. I eliminated it from this message – I believe.

Steve Broadbent is tracking Marilyn’s messages in particular – no-one else’s as far as I can see.

I now do not open any RU messages. They will be able to see that. It’s the best specific response.

Also check for “readnotify” in the headers of any messages that are replied to or forwarded, even to one another, and even if RU are removed from the cc list – because they’ll continue to be tracked.

Victor, you may want to alert everyone on your list that READNOTIFY is in use, that the the source is RU, and that Marilyn was specifically targeted. This is spyware by any definition.

Best to all, Bill
--
Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy
310 279 6769
http://projectcamelot.org

Note this particular sentence: "I now do not open any RU messages". Hmm, I wonder if that was because I met his juvenile challenge and answered everyone of his supposed "unknowable" questions aimed at RU. I never did receive a reply.

Bill also shows his true intentions with his next paragraph:
"Victor, you may want to alert everyone on your list that READNOTIFY is in use, that the the source is RU, and that Marilyn was specifically targeted. This is spyware by any definition."

He is attempting to do the same thing Victor tried with Tacitus a few months ago. Cry "Wolf" and hope no one will open any other emails because of the fabricated Virus/Spyware threats. I've said it before and I will say it again: These people are pathetic individuals who believe most people are too dense to realise what their game is. They cannot stomach the fact there are people around who have the "audacity" to actually stand up and let everyone know exactly what it is they are up to. They disgust me. Frauds in the truest sense of the word.

Cheers,
Zep

[ochre]

These people are just childish in the extreme.

There was a time I sort of wished I'd applied to "the list" but these last months I'm just glad I never acted on that temptation.

I get enough spam as it is without needing to deal with unsolicited harebrained conspiracy theories as well.

You show 'em, Zep.

[ufologist]

These people are just childish in the extreme.

There was a time I sort of wished I'd applied to "the list" but these last months I'm just glad I never acted on that temptation.

I get enough spam as it is without needing to deal with unsolicited harebrained conspiracy theories as well.

You show 'em, Zep.

ochre!!! missed ya! ufologist

[Springer]

These people are just childish in the extreme.

There was a time I sort of wished I'd applied to "the list" but these last months I'm just glad I never acted on that temptation.

I get enough spam as it is without needing to deal with unsolicited harebrained conspiracy theories as well.

You show 'em, Zep.

Ochre... Be VERY GLAD you did not give into that temptaion! The amount of spam eminating from that list is unholy! That's not counting the utter B.S. that's expected and delivered.

S...

[kiwicocky]

Bill Ryan said

Victor, you may want to alert everyone on your list that READNOTIFY is in use, that the the source is RU, and that Marilyn was specifically targeted. This is spyware by any definition.

LOL

Readnotify has been in use on the e-list since before serpo

before Zep was on the list

before RU

:)

Check your headers

[Xena]

Bill Ryan said

Victor, you may want to alert everyone on your list that READNOTIFY is in use, that the the source is RU, and that Marilyn was specifically targeted. This is spyware by any definition.

LOL

Readnotify has been in use on the e-list since before serpo

before Zep was on the list

before RU

:)

Check your headers

Now how far back should they go, hmm, should we tell them???

[Zep Tepi]

Someone should really let Mr. Palmer Davis know when to simply shut up and when to speak, or type as it were. Each time he tries to engage a topic he invariably puts his foot in his mouth and ends up appearing stupid.

First he posts a Spyware definition from Wikipedia then claims, contrary to the reality of the situation, that Read Notify is clearly spyware...

In essence what Broadbent is doing is using spyware.

No Jake, in essence what I'm doing is tracking my OWN emails you Obvious Moron.

The fact they don't have permission from a recipient to tract their email use and do it clandestinely does not effect their conscience, because they have no set moral code, it is defined by how far they can go without getting caught.

Hey Jake, please explain to me and all other interested parties why I would need permission from YOU to enable me to check what YOU are doing with MY email. Is that not simple enough for you?

Please tell me he really isn't THAT stupid.

Cheers,
Zep

[Hidden Hand]

Please tell me he really isn't THAT stupid.

"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."